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user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
11th Jun '13
Quoting bia.:" Great for you :lol: I don't, and if someone smacked my mums hand, that person would have me to answer. Maybe my parents raised me to respect older people, that includes not smacking them."


Being old does not make you more deserving of respect. Your parents did you a disservice by teaching you to blindly respect you elders and not every other person on the planet.

user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
11th Jun '13
Quoting A&J. ♥:"I had a hard time reading this because I hate when people use someone's ethnicity in a story when it has no bearing whatsoever. "Some Hispanic lady" "Some white lady" "Some black lady"
I'm sure you meant nothing by it but it REALLY is a pet peeve of mine.
[snip!] ... feel uncomfortable. But, I also don't have the personal space issues you do so I really can't imagine how you were feeling"


THIS!

user banned 1 child; :), :), United States 5380 posts
11th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jillynne:</b>" Being old does not make you more deserving of respect. Your parents did you a disservice by teaching you to blindly respect you elders and not every other person on the planet. "</blockquote>



I think it's good to have a general respect for everyone, unless they have done something to lose that respect. In OP's case, I can see how she felt that the woman was crossing a line.

user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
12th Jun '13

Being pregnant does not forfeit your right to bodily autonomy. I don't care who the person is, if I haven't given you permission to touch me, you're not allowed to touch me.



Allowing or -ugh- defending this because you don't want to be "rude" to an old lady is no different that allowing a rapist to violate you because you don't want to offend them. :roll:

user banned 1 child; :), :), United States 5380 posts
12th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jillynne:</b>" Being pregnant does not forfeit your right to bodily autonomy. I don't care who the person is, if I haven't ... [snip!] ... to be "rude" to an old lady is no different that allowing a rapist to violate you because you don't want to offend them. :roll:"</blockquote>



That's kind of a stretch.

user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
12th Jun '13
Quoting Abby Normal:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jillynne:</b>" Being old does not make you more deserving of ... [snip!] ... unless they have done something to lose that respect. In OP's case, I can see how she felt that the woman was crossing a line."


Well yes, there are definitely people in the world who no longer deserve my respect in the whole. However, on the topic of respecting the personal space of others, this should always be a given unless your are protecting/defending yourself.

user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
12th Jun '13
Quoting Abby Normal:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jillynne:</b>" Being pregnant does not forfeit your right to ... [snip!] ... allowing a rapist to violate you because you don't want to offend them. :roll:"</blockquote> That's kind of a stretch."


Not really. Rape culture. People still get taken advantage of and pressured into "consent" every day because society scares them into not wanting to offend their teacher/coworker/friend of a friend/person of authority and so on and so on. Fear of retaliation, a lot of the time in some form of "that chick is such a cold bitch..." :roll: People are told everyday to accommodate others, be friendly, be a "nice girl", and that's when they second guess their own control and hand themselves over to someone else.




This same issue is why I don't make my children hug or kiss or even talk to people they don't want to. "Grandma is leaving, do you want to give her a kiss goodbye?" "No." "Alright, maybe some other time. Bye grandma!" Teach it early.

. , Richmond, VA, United States 75060 posts
12th Jun '13
Quoting Abby Normal:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jillynne:</b>" Being pregnant does not forfeit your right to ... [snip!] ... allowing a rapist to violate you because you don't want to offend them. :roll:"</blockquote> That's kind of a stretch."

Definitely a stretch.



There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be touched but imo hitting someone for a non violent touch is overboard.

user banned 2 kids; Moses Lake, Washington 13508 posts
12th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ¿ ¼ ¿:</b>" Definitely a stretch. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be touched but imo hitting someone for a non violent touch is overboard. "</blockquote>



Unwanted physical contact is unwanted physical contact. Who are you to judge when it is "okay" to defend yourself?

. , Richmond, VA, United States 75060 posts
12th Jun '13
Quoting Jillynne:" <blockquote><b>Quoting
user banned 1 child; :), :), United States 5380 posts
12th Jun '13

I feel like you're lumping assault and rape too close together. Pretty extreme statement.

ρiηkie ρie 3 kids; 3 angel babies; Kentucky 21902 posts
12th Jun '13
Quoting bia.:" Nah yeah, it is. I would never ever smack an old person, that is so fucking rude."

Hypothetical here but let's pretend you're walking around walmart, minding your own business when a random old person comes up and rubs your leg or gets really close and smells your neck. What would you do? Stand there because they're old and it's disrespectful not to? Or would you do something about it? Because it's no different than some random old bat groping your stomach. I've not only smacked people's hands for touching my stomach but for trying to touch my kids too. Young and old. It's creepy and you don't do that shit. I don't care who you are or how much longer than me you've been alive.

user banned 1 child; :), :), United States 5380 posts
12th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ρiηkie ρie:</b>" Hypothetical here but let's pretend you're walking around walmart, minding your own business when a random ... [snip!] ... Young and old. It's creepy and you don't do that shit. I don't care who you are or how much longer than me you've been alive. "</blockquote>



With all the creeps out there, it would probably be best to run away from them towards help. Not continue any sort of contact with them.

Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14180 posts
status 12th Jun '13

Jesus. Some of you people would really hit a 90 year old woman? That's disgusting. She was probably 80 pounds the heaviest.



It's okay to feel uncomfortable, take a step back, and ask someone not to touch you. But if your first instinct is violence against someone much more vulnerable than you, then dude, you have issues.

yo moyo 1 child; Ishim, Russian Federation 1335 posts
12th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Supafly★:</b>" Jesus. Some of you people would really hit a 90 year old woman? That's disgusting. She was probably 80 ... [snip!] ... touch you. But if your first instinct is violence against someone much more vulnerable than you, then dude, you have issues. "</blockquote>



No kidding. I don't like to be touched either but hitting a person who essentially means well is a bit of overkill imo.