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Autism... to be or not to be?! Giovanni & Armani's Mama Due May 26; 1 child; Fremont, California 467 posts
17th Jun '13

My 2 year old son is currently undergoing evaluation for autism. He has his evaluation for ABA therapy tomorrow and then he will be starting intensive 20 hour/week therapy. I used to be so sure he was autistic and now I'm so confused. I know spectrum is extremely broad, is it possible that his autism is really just that mild? So, here he his in a nutshell;
Things that make me think he is autistic
-Doesn't have meaningful language
-Doesn't wave hi/bye
-Lines and stacks things up and opens cabinets
- Looks at objects and "stacks" from different angles, like he'll get close to the ground to look at one of his "stacks" from the side
- Grits his teeth
-Doesn't point to things with his index finger
-Has a selective diet



Things that make me think he may not be
- Doesn't mind being touched, even by stangers
- Makes pretty good eye contact, could be better but it doesn't seem to bother him to do so
- As of recently has been initiating play at the park with other kids by pushing them down the slide
- Plays well with other children, even though he doesn't often do the initiating
- Will reach and cry for things that he wants
- Will "pretend play" when prompted to, not on his own but will engage once I start
- Not routine oriented, doing things differently does not bother him at all
-Is always fine when we take him in public, to the store, crowds, etc.
- Initiates play with myself and his brother all the time and likes to cuddle



The Regional Center says they suspect Autism because his cognitive skills are taking off while his social/coping/language skills are still lingering behind. I do feel like he could easily be autistic but at the same time he does so many things that make me question it. Either way he will be getting the ABA therapy which im so happy about. Does anyone have or know an autistic child who is really mild with their "autistic behaviors"? Just curious, TIA :)

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
17th Jun '13

My son -age 7-has very, very, mild autism. If you didn't know, you'd think he was just a little bit weird maybe.



I question his diagnosis, frankly. He's just like me and I don't have Autism. I feel it's vastly overdiagnosed. but...the diagnosis has brought on a lot of resources that have really helped him excel, so...I dunno.

Just Ames 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Montego Bay, Jamaica 114793 posts
17th Jun '13

Well that's my Son in a nut shell, lol.



He is 4 1/2 and not Autistic. He might have certain "quirks" but apparently that means Autism now a days. Anyway, glad you have him in therapy to work on the things he is in fact "delayed" on. Best of luck.

Just Ames 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Montego Bay, Jamaica 114793 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" My son -age 7-has very, very, mild autism. If you didn't know, you'd think he was just a little bit weird ... [snip!] ... vastly overdiagnosed. but...the diagnosis has brought on a lot of resources that have really helped him excel, so...I dunno. "

Do you think it has simply helped him cope with the things he is unsure of or uncomfortable about? In our days (you and I) we basically were left to deal with said anxieties as we got older. Now there is so many resources out there to help children better (and sooner) deal with their quirks that might be on the extreme side, but definitely not diagnose worthy.

Giovanni & Armani's Mama Due May 26; 1 child; Fremont, California 467 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" My son -age 7-has very, very, mild autism. If you didn't know, you'd think he was just a little bit weird ... [snip!] ... vastly overdiagnosed. but...the diagnosis has brought on a lot of resources that have really helped him excel, so...I dunno. "


I feel the same way! All of the therapy that is offered to children who have suspected autism is really amazing so I figure, autistic or not the therapy is only going to do him good because the fact of the matter is, he is delayed and could use a helping hand ;)

Giovanni & Armani's Mama Due May 26; 1 child; Fremont, California 467 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Just Ames:" Well that's my Son in a nut shell, lol. He is 4 1/2 and not Autistic. He might have certain "quirks" ... [snip!] ... means Autism now a days. Anyway, glad you have him in therapy to work on the things he is in fact "delayed" on. Best of luck."


Thank you!

Jenny&Boopy 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7167 posts
17th Jun '13

My 7 year old has severe ADHD and ODD but he's also being evaluated for Autism. He's kind of the opposite, he has issues with touch and eye contact, etc while his speech has always been ahead.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Just Ames:" Do you think it has simply helped him cope with the things he is unsure of or uncomfortable about? In ... [snip!] ... help children better (and sooner) deal with their quirks that might be on the extreme side, but definitely not diagnose worthy."


Yeah, you know...the ,main thing was he was a "late talker". He didn't really say much until like 3.5 ...and then there was a lot of jibberish. He interacts with kids strangely, but we moved a LOT for the first 4 years of his life and he was in an environment with mostly adults a lot. He likes to organize things. I feel like nobody takes this stuff into consideration when they pass out the Autism tests...there isn't much room for environmental factors and just straight up personality differences.




I for sure rolled my eyes when "autism" was brought up at an IEP meeting for the 1st time. I still do, honestly. He's come a long way with the help he's received, though--which is mostly just speech therapy & stuff. so, whatever, I guess. If it helps him out I guess I'm not so concerned with the label.

Just Ames 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Montego Bay, Jamaica 114793 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Giovanni & Armani's Mama:" I feel the same way! All of the therapy that is offered to children who have suspected autism is really ... [snip!] ... not the therapy is only going to do him good because the fact of the matter is, he is delayed and could use a helping hand ;)"

That's a great way to look at it :)

Giovanni & Armani's Mama Due May 26; 1 child; Fremont, California 467 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Just Ames:" Well that's my Son in a nut shell, lol. He is 4 1/2 and not Autistic. He might have certain "quirks" ... [snip!] ... means Autism now a days. Anyway, glad you have him in therapy to work on the things he is in fact "delayed" on. Best of luck."


Thank you!

Just Ames 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Montego Bay, Jamaica 114793 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" Yeah, you know...the ,main thing was he was a "late talker". He didn't really say much until like 3.5 ... [snip!] ... just speech therapy & stuff. so, whatever, I guess. If it helps him out I guess I'm not so concerned with the label. "

"there isn't much room for environmental factors and just straight up personality differences. "
OMG, truer words have never been spoken.
I agree! Other factors should absolutely be considered. It's almost like a check list and nothing more :? My Son has his own types of struggles but what person doesn't, you know? We know what these things are and will absolutely continue in working with him to learn how to cope and deal with life as it comes. At the end of the day the help they receive to be able to function day to day is what matters but I feel some people are solely focused on a diagnoses.

CrapBag. 3 kids; Minnesota 7921 posts
17th Jun '13

People with autism don't have every indicator. to be diagnosed, they need to have a certain amount of indicators per area and each area is different.



If you question the diagnosis, you should let them know so your child recieves the right therapy for his/her needs.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Just Ames:" "there isn't much room for environmental factors and just straight up personality differences. " OMG, ... [snip!] ... help they receive to be able to function day to day is what matters but I feel some people are solely focused on a diagnoses. "

Completely.



the stupid thing is that in order for him to get extra help, he had to have some kind of "problem". So, they gave him "autistic like behaviors" and suggested we go get the one-size-fits-all evaluation.



Which, he fit into the mild end of the spectrum.



Nobody seemed to care about anything other than some tests. Nobody paid attention to the fact that he was behind and having trouble adjusting because they made him skip kindergarten. (we used to live in MN, where starting kinder at 6 is totally normal, esp with a June birthday, We moved here when he was almost 5. I knew he wasn't yet ready and thought another year home would be good. Well, turns out, kids who are barely 4 start proper kindergarten here. )



I mean...none of that mattered to anyone.

Just Ames 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Montego Bay, Jamaica 114793 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" Completely. the stupid thing is that in order for him to get extra help, he had to have some kind of ... [snip!] ... be good. Well, turns out, kids who are barely 4 start proper kindergarten here. ) I mean...none of that mattered to anyone. "

As a mother I can see how that could make a difference in things :( Well, I'm glad he has received the help he needed at the time.
We are waiting for insurance approval for speech therapy and food therapy, ha! Didn't even know that existed :lol:

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
17th Jun '13
Quoting Just Ames:" As a mother I can see how that could make a difference in things :( Well, I'm glad he has received the ... [snip!] ... at the time. We are waiting for insurance approval for speech therapy and food therapy, ha! Didn't even know that existed :lol:"

Food therapy? Wow, I've never heard of that either. My food therapy is, "Are you gonna finish that?" Ha ha.