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The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting izzy+Ethan:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~The Lunar Flower~:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... would of truly helped her but her inhaler that's not my point. My point is that besides calling 911 no one TRIED to help her."


The only thing that could have helped her was calling 911 you idiot ... she was dead otherwise.

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" The only thing that could have helped her was calling 911 you idiot ... she was dead otherwise."</blockquote>




911 was only gonna bring EMTs to try to help get her to a hospital but their we already EMTs there wtf is the difference

jo-jo 2 kids; ..., SA, Australia 2288 posts
27th Jun '13

I wonder if training is different everywhere?
I just did my first aid certificate again yesterday as it expired. I also got taught if a person is having a seizure, remove anything that they might hurt them self on that is in the way but don't touch the person. Once the seizure stops then ask them if they are ok etc. etc. Obviously this lady was not ok as she was also having a severe asthma attack. In a perfect scenario someone would have called 911 even if there were EMT's standing there. They then would have been instructed on what to do (we got told that if there was a member of the public that had an inhaler we were to try it on the patient) if the patient stopped breathing then commence CPR.
When someone dies, people will try to find a reason why or a person to point the finger at.
I would have tried my best to do something for her, doing something would have been better than doing nothing...shit, I would want someone to try and save me if I was in that position.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting izzy+Ethan:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" The only thing that could have helped her was ... [snip!] ... 911 was only gonna bring EMTs to try to help get her to a hospital but their we already EMTs there wtf is the difference"


equipment ... just because you're trained doesn't mean you can pull equipment out of your ass. The EMT's would have put her on a salbutomal nebulizer with 100% O2 the moment they got on the scene. They would have also probably given her a magnesium infusion to make sure that O2 was being absorbed. Unless your f**king ambulances don't carry medicines and oxygen.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
27th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Peyton'sMommy♥:</b>" http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/157568/pregnant_woman_dies_after_emt This woman was at a restaurant ... [snip!] ... do nothing? I don't know much about asthma attacks though so I am not sure if the EMT worker could have done much of anything."</blockquote>




In this article it certainly sounds like the EMT was cold and uncaring. You would think that she would at least try to comfort the sick woman.
That said, people die of asthma in ambulances and ERs all the time. Sometimes the attack can't be stopped in time.
I had a friend who died of asthma while at her boyfriend's house even though he was a doctor and she had all her meds. The attack was severe and came on fast. Her airway was too swollen to allow relief. This scenario is not uncommon.

user banned 2 kids; Silly, Belgium 6539 posts
27th Jun '13

I hate these stupid cafe mom articles. They're poorly written and emotionally biased. The authors always pick and choose what they want to include. A quick Google search reveals some more relevant information. The pregnant woman had initially refused going to the hospital because she "needed the hours". Also, the EMT was a dispatcher. Not in an ambulance. The EMT's boyfriend was ALSO an EMT...why wasn't he charged? (He was shot to death btw).



I'm not saying what they did was right or wrong but fact is, the woman would likely be dead whether Melisa Jackson was holding her hand or not. She did what COULD be done, which was call 911.

SuperSecret123 Japan 220 posts
27th Jun '13

as far as I know emts can not give meds, only paramedics so Idk if that's even within her scope, did she have any meds available?

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting jo-jo:</b>" I wonder if training is different everywhere? I just did my first aid certificate again yesterday as ... [snip!] ... something would have been better than doing nothing...shit, I would want someone to try and save me if I was in that position."</blockquote>




This is what I'm trying to get at .... I guess I Kurd phrase words really bad :( trying seriously would have been better then nothing

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting ~Frodolicious~(B+M=R+?):" TRY WHAT? Seriously, do you think EMTs have some magical powers to magically shit out inhalers or something?? ... [snip!] ... went out for coffee in someone's car. Calling for EMTs and, in turn, the equipment needed, was the RIGHT course of action. "


I UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN IF THEY TRIED SHE MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAYS..that is not the point




i caps because you guys just dont understand what im trying to say




i understand that she died and she probably still would have ...however the fuckers didn't try nothing just left cause they were on break....

user banned 2 kids; Silly, Belgium 6539 posts
27th Jun '13

I'M YELLING WORDS. AHHHHHH.

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting ~Frodolicious~(B+M=R+?):" THERE WAS NOTHING TO TRY. Let's try the all caps mentality on you, see if it helps you understand. ... [snip!] ... They could do NOTHING. They had no equipment, no inhaler, nothing. There was nothing to try. What should they do? Honestly?"


they turned around and just said call 911 ...heartless .... honestly i dont know what could have been tried but the way they just turned around and walked out was just stupid

user banned 2 kids; Silly, Belgium 6539 posts
27th Jun '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting izzy+Ethan:</b>" they turned around and just said call 911 ...heartless .... honestly i dont know what could have been tried but the way they just turned around and walked out was just stupid"</blockquote>




You didn't do anything either!

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting ~Frodolicious~(B+M=R+?):" So, what you're saying is they could have done nothing, but that by doing nothing they were out of line? :?"


it not nothing if they went back there to at least evaluate the situation....they just flat out walked out

izzy+Ethan 2 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 4056 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting ~Frodolicious~(B+M=R+?):" They called EMS. They obviously did something before they walked out. In fact, didn't they call twice?"


im pretty sure i read they told the cashier to call then when no one showed fast enough the cashier called again

. , ., VA, United States 74513 posts
27th Jun '13
Quoting Destiel:" If she was having a seizure then standard precaution is to move everything out of the way and let her go for it ... trying to restrain her could just cause a whole lot more physical trauma."

I didn't say anything about restraint. :?