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Minion 3 kids; ., GA, United States 21802 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Crystal

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

Police here are taught how to handle attack dogs, that officer had a tazer, mace, a club. Anything he could have used to detain or get the dog away and shot him, and let him suffer, not a head shot he let the dog bleed out and cry in the street. The Hawthorne Police department will be releasing a statement, I called the mayors office. I hope that officer is relieved of his duties and spends a substantial amount of time in prison, even though I know he will not. I usually do agree with police in most cases but in this I DO NOT DEFEND not one of the police, the man did nothing wrong but record, and listen to music both are LEGAL, he did not resist arrest and did put his dog away before he WILLINGLY put his hands behind his back. All officers involved should be reprimanded, but the one responsible for an animals death should do jail time.

Captain Obvious 2 kids; Havana, Cuba 25634 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" Police here are taught how to handle attack dogs, that officer had a tazer, mace, a club. Anything he ... [snip!] ... behind his back. All officers involved should be reprimanded, but the one responsible for an animals death should do jail time."


1. You realize a tazer will only incapacitate something while it's shocking them right? As soon as it's not shocking anymore the dog will be right back up, probably twice as aggressive.
2. You want the officer to lose his job because a dog lunged at him and he shot it?
3. The man was asked repeatedly to turn his music down because he was interfering with their investigation and chose not to do so.
4. He was clearly pushing back when they were attempting to take him to the police car which is when the dog got irritated.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13

Something else to consider is why the officers were there in the first place. They COULD have detained the dog, tazered it, etc. BUT, they were there for an entirely different reason, and the dog was distracting them from that. In my opinion, it was the most efficient way to make sure the dog wasn't going to attack someone AND get back to the call they were on in the first place. Their attention was needed elsewhere. Period.

ღ.ღ.ღ 3 kids; South Carolina 7316 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting Captain Obvious:" 1. You realize a tazer will only incapacitate something while it's shocking them right? As soon as it's ... [snip!] ... 4. He was clearly pushing back when they were attempting to take him to the police car which is when the dog got irritated. "


This. Where as shooting the dog was sad, he should of finished it off to stop the pain but sending the officer to prison because of it. I'm sorry but that's just stupid, the dog DID lunge at him. Was he suppose to stand there, and get attacked from a dog that big? Have you ever been face to face with a dog that big while he's trying to harm you because he thinks you're hurting his owner? Yes listening to music and recording are legal but they were trying to handle a situation and the guy was being a douche.

Crystal 3 kids; Hephzibah, Georgia 15566 posts
2nd Jul '13

Yes, playing music is legal, but many places has noise ordinances and these Police were there for an armed burglary, or to apprehend the suspect. They needed no interference with their communication. What if the dude came out the house with a gun and the 1 officer that saw it couldn't relay the message to the others because nobody could hear over the music? The right to music was not more important than the safety of the many officers and civilians standing around outside the scene.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Captain Obvious:</b>" 1. You realize a tazer will only incapacitate something while it's shocking them right? As soon as it's ... [snip!] ... 4. He was clearly pushing back when they were attempting to take him to the police car which is when the dog got irritated. "</blockquote>




A bullet to the head would have killed the dog not 4 shots to the legs while he bled out. Once again police are trained to restrain and contain attack dogs, the dog clearly did not bite him he lunged other measures could have been taken, and lastly the man gave them no issues with arrest. Their were more than one officer there and more than enough to contain the dog after being maxed or tazed especially considering his owner was so cooperative. I hold my ground the officer responsible should not only loose his job but rot in jail.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11735 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:".. and lastly the man gave them no issues with arrest

That is not true.



You can clearly see the man start to resist arrest and the cops start to have to use a bit of force..... which then causes the dog to jump from the car.



he was resisting.



and he is a douche for standing around music blaring and filming the cops when they are trying to do their damn job.



i don't agree with how the cops handled this, but the man could have saved his dog by going the fuck home. I'm as pissed at him as I am the cops.



He was resisting though.

Minion 3 kids; ., GA, United States 21802 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" That is not true. You can clearly see the man start to resist arrest and the cops start to have to use ... [snip!] ... but the man could have saved his dog by going the fuck home. I'm as pissed at him as I am the cops. He was resisting though."</blockquote>




I agree. The man was a massive douche.

user banned 2 kids; Silly, Belgium 6539 posts
2nd Jul '13

The dog was the only innocent one and he got shot to death.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" That is not true. You can clearly see the man start to resist arrest and the cops start to have to use ... [snip!] ... but the man could have saved his dog by going the fuck home. I'm as pissed at him as I am the cops. He was resisting though."</blockquote>




He was resisting by walking backwards and putting his hands behind his back or when he turned around to tell his dog no before they shot the dog. Lets get some facts straight here.



1. He was an asshole but broke not 1 law
2. He did not resist arrest he put his dog in the car and walked backwards to officers with his hands behind his back.
3 he told his dog no when he turned around.
4. Their we're at least 6 police cars there
5. They could have used other measures and ha enough police to contain the man and to contain the animal.
6. They shot the animal and let it bleed to death instead of humainly doing it.

The Doctor 2 kids; Whiskey Dick Mountain, WA, United States 59965 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" That is not true. You can clearly ... [snip!] ... to contain the man and to contain the animal. 6. They shot the animal and let it bleed to death instead of humainly doing it."



But that's ignoring the fact that those 6 police cars were there for a crime already in progress, and were trying to focus their energies there. Not 6 police officers worth of cars restraining a man and a dog when he was interfering with what they were trying to do. He could have shut off his music when he got out of his car, crisis averted.



He was also responsible in how the situation played out.



And as far as humanely, the officer felt threatened. He tried to protect himself, and in that the dog suffered. That sucks, but the man easily could have stopped the entire situation from happening, and still gotten his video that he wanted so badly.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11735 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" That is not true. You can clearly ... [snip!] ... to contain the man and to contain the animal. 6. They shot the animal and let it bleed to death instead of humainly doing it."


first of all you see them struggle right before the dog jumps out trying to get him to stay still and he's moving all around... second he walked towards them on the sidewalk before turning around hands behind him.



so your facts are off too.



YET AGAIN
I will state I don't agree with them shooting the dog I mean I don't know how many times I've stated that now... I mean maybe 3 now??



He still resisted.



He should have left.



It's HIS fault all this even happened because he didn't just leave and go home.




He is in the wrong.... cops are in the wrong...



but end of the day... it all could have been prevented had the DUMBASS man gone home

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" But that's ignoring the fact that those 6 police cars were there for a crime already in progress, ... [snip!] ... but the man easily could have stopped the entire situation from happening, and still gotten his video that he wanted so badly."</blockquote>




And I think he is an asshole, but the officer that pulled that trigger really did have other options and acted too fast. I think the owner was an asshole to the fullest but facts are he did nothing legally wrong and the end result is the death of an innocent animal, not at the hands of his owner at the hands of a poorly trained officer.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" first of all you see them struggle right before the dog jumps out trying to get him to stay still and ... [snip!] ... in the wrong.... cops are in the wrong... but end of the day... it all could have been prevented had the DUMBASS man gone home"</blockquote>




No he did not resist, he did not listen. Their is a huge difference.