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♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" What's juvenile is not knowing how ... [snip!] ... No making fun of someone because they cannot is, my parents raised me to accept people disabilities and all ;-)"


Pointing out what is already there for everyone to see is not the same as teasing.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11704 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... discussion and I am willing to be had I agreed with you my grammar wouldn't be an issue. Yes children make fun adults disagree."</blockquote>




you keep calling me a child based on nothing.



You said you wanted a cop to rot in jail based on nothing.



children make wide assumptions.
adults use FACTS.



;)



I did not belittle you in any way.
I did bring up grammar.
I do not find that childish.
I said it was a pet peeve of mine.
You then went to calling everyone in here children.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ... [snip!] ... up grammar. I do not find that childish. I said it was a pet peeve of mine. You then went to calling everyone in here children."</blockquote>




No I said people who make fun are children if you don't feel that pertained to you than it didn't.



2 the man is an officer of the law, he was or should have been trained with attack dogs which left him other options in that situation, so yes his ass should be in jail.



3 I choose not to point out others flaws in arguments because in these situations it always looks belittling.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" Pointing out what is already there for everyone to see is not the same as teasing."</blockquote>




So you would point out someone with Down syndrome or a learning disability because you can see it? Or recognize it?

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... be in jail. 3 I choose not to point out others flaws in arguments because in these situations it always looks belittling."


When they train with attack dogs they wear protective gear. Plus, the attack dogs are there to help the officers, not to attack them. That's the dumbest argument I've heard.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" When they train with attack dogs they wear protective gear. Plus, the attack dogs are there to help the officers, not to attack them. That's the dumbest argument I've heard."</blockquote>




The dogs attack them for training so the officers are trained also in how to protect themselves against aggressive dogs.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" Pointing out what is already there ... [snip!] ... So you would point out someone with Down syndrome or a learning disability because you can see it? Or recognize it?"


Whether I would or would not is irrelevant. I simply said that it's not the same as teasing.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" When they train with attack dogs ... [snip!] ... The dogs attack them for training so the officers are trained also in how to protect themselves against aggressive dogs."


And like I said, they're wearing protective gear when they train. This situation is not the same. He didn't do anything but protect himself.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" Whether I would or would not is irrelevant. I simply said that it's not the same as teasing."</blockquote>




I'm sure that means no you wouldn't. My grammar is irrelevant to the matter at hand.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" And like I said, they're wearing protective gear when they train. This situation is not the same. He didn't do anything but protect himself."</blockquote>




I have 4 Philadelphia police officers in my family, Philly is a rough place, 2 of them said they would have tazed or kicked the dog before putting a bullet in it. 1 said If he was going to shoot it he would just put it out of his misery so he would be humane and shoot it in the head. What happened was cruel and uncalled for, and also had many other options

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11704 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" Whether I would or would not is ... [snip!] ... same as teasing."</blockquote> I'm sure that means no you wouldn't. My grammar is irrelevant to the matter at hand."</blockquote>




you are right.



It was still irritating. And I usually do not say anything but on top of you being snippy it just really got to me.



I pointed it out big whoop.



I am SORRY you feel like I am picking on you or making fun because I am not. I just find it annoying.




as far as the cop and stuff I feel you have it pretty twisted and there is no reason for us to try to explain to you because you are not going to listen.

He Who Must Not Be Named 2 kids; Whiskey Dick Mountain, WA, United States 59277 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ⚓:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... be in jail. 3 I choose not to point out others flaws in arguments because in these situations it always looks belittling."</blockquote>



Very few places require police to have training with any animals. And it's all well and good to say they should have that training, sure. But funding. Time. And it comes down to: police officers are human beings as well. With flaws and fears, and their job is a dangerous one. Their position gives them the ability to use force when they believe it is necessary, and especially with an animal that cannot communicate with them, they do not know that animals temperament, because they saw it walking with its owner for a minute.



Does that mean they should just shoot any animal they see? Absolutely not. Should they have shot this one? That was a sad judgement call. The officer obviously felt that he was in danger. And no amount of training with animals is going to change the fact that sometimes you do have to make a tough call in that line of work. Does that excuse him shooting the animal? No. Should he rot in jail? No. I don't think so. As its been pointed out, there were many ways the situation could have been avoided, many of which were in the animal owner's hands, and not the officer's.



Doesn't make it any less sad.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11704 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" And like I said, they're wearing ... [snip!] ... so he would be humane and shoot it in the head. What happened was cruel and uncalled for, and also had many other options"</blockquote>




most of us have already stated both parties were at fault.
cops and the man.



he should have gone home and minded his own business and not resisted the bit he did at the end...
the cops should not have shot the dog.




That is for the most part the response I have seen.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
2nd Jul '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" Whether I would or would not is ... [snip!] ... same as teasing."</blockquote> I'm sure that means no you wouldn't. My grammar is irrelevant to the matter at hand."


It was not irrelevant to the post I quoted. And you know what they say about ASSuming, right?

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11704 posts
2nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting BoogsMaMa:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Simply Mom ... [snip!] ... could have been avoided, many of which were in the animal owner's hands, and not the officer's. Doesn't make it any less sad."</blockquote>




I know right?
it is beyond sad :(



i still can not get it out of my mind :'(