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Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8535 posts
3rd Jul '13
Quoting Vicki McDonald:" Just to preface my commment, I'm pretty pro-life. Yes, I know, that makes me a judgmental sanctimonious ... [snip!] ... care, not realizing and that it is inferior care if they are not educated and legislations aren't in place to protect them. "


I have read that opinion a lot recently and the pro-woman perspective is admirable. However, by requiring abortion clinics to make the massive upgrades they're trying to require, they're making it impossible for those clinics to remain in business. The same thing is happening in my state (Virginia). The problem is, if 90% of the abortion clinics shut down, then the women who most heavily need to rely on safe and legal abortion (the ones who don't have the resources to maintain a healthy pregnancy and/or raise children, often in substance abuse situations) need MORE resources to terminate their pregnancies. Instead of driving an hour, they have to travel 8 hours. It just makes safe, clean termination impossible.



My great-grandmother died from a back alley or homemade abortion almost 100 years ago, because she was desperate. I will fight to my dying breath to make sure my daughters will have more options than that. I get why people don't like abortion. I understand the arguments. I just think it's far more important to let people make their own decisions than it is to "save" every fetus.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
3rd Jul '13
Quoting Kayla [:)]♥:" This site says differently http://perth.angloinfo.com/information/healthcare/pregnancy-birth/termination-abortion/"


How old is that? Because my mother actually does the ultrasounds for the abortions in the local hospital

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
3rd Jul '13
Quoting Kayla [:)]♥:" This site says differently http://perth.angloinfo.com/information/healthcare/pregnancy-birth/termination-abortion/"


Also I've just read that now ... finally got it opened at work. And where is that any different to what I said? I'm in W.A ... and a woman can get an abortion up to 20 weeks (it is actually 21) and anything over that has to have court approval. Sorry I forgot about the court approval bit BUT how many people do you think actually go to court for it?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22822 posts
status 4th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Also I've just read that now ... finally got it opened at work. And where is that any different to what ... [snip!] ... have court approval. Sorry I forgot about the court approval bit BUT how many people do you think actually go to court for it?"</blockquote>




Personally, I don't think the 20 week aspect is a problem except in the case of a life-threatening issue for the mother.
I also agree with the ultrasound.



I wonder how many back-alley abortions happen in Ireland.