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Sleeping pills for a 5 year old? Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56007 posts
status 15th Jul '13

Cora has always had sleep issues. Her bedtime going like this



Play all day, no naps.



Bed around 7:30, asleep by 8
Wake at 10:30ish, up for an hour or so
Back to sleep around 11:30 or midnight
up around 2.
Up for an hour or two
back to sleep around 3 until 5ish



Up for the day around 5



She has always been like this. When she gets up those times, she pees, gets a sip of water, and hangs out until she falls asleep again. Totally dark room, no entertainment. Occasionally she uses my ipod to listen to music



She has some extreme behavior issues, mostly anxiety and giant mood swings. Prolonged tantrums. Always crying and whiny



She has had a sleep study and they said nothing is "wrong" and to let her CIO and ignore her, which I do



We met with a social worker today for an intake to child psych.



I honestly think that her lack of sleep could be the root of all of her behavioral issues



We've tried strict routine, we've tried melatonin and other herbal remedies



Do they even make sleeping pills for kids? I feel bad thinking about meds for her but I honestly don't know what else there is to try.



She has a couple more visits with the social worker to see if she will be accepted into their program and to get an official dx. I don't even know what they would dx her with. Can a 5 year old have insomnia? Bipolar? I know kids can have anxiety problems.

ChristinaLynne Due October 7 (boy); 2 kids; Pancake, TX, United States 28969 posts
15th Jul '13

You could try melatonin

lolajessup Due July 25 (girl); 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
15th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ChristinaLynne:</b>" You could try melatonin"</blockquote>



:!: talk to her dr about it. Good luck Hun.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56007 posts
status 15th Jul '13
Quoting ChristinaLynne:" You could try melatonin"


I think I put that we have tried Melatonin with no success

ChristinaLynne Due October 7 (boy); 2 kids; Pancake, TX, United States 28969 posts
15th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" I think I put that we have tried Melatonin with no success"</blockquote>




Whoops I missed that part sorry!



Have you tried a higher dose?

LA REINA™ New York, NY, United States 16186 posts
15th Jul '13
Quoting ChristinaLynne:" You could try melatonin"

Yup, talk to the doctor about it. I wouldn't give my child anything else.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56007 posts
status 15th Jul '13
Quoting ChristinaLynne:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" I think I put that we have tried Melatonin ... [snip!] ... have tried Melatonin with no success"</blockquote> Whoops I missed that part sorry! Have you tried a higher dose?"

She has done 3mgs and 5 mgs and neither one did much. The 5 mgs made her a grumpy girl though

LA REINA™ New York, NY, United States 16186 posts
15th Jul '13
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" I think I put that we have tried Melatonin with no success"


:oops:



Do you have quiet wind down time before bed?

Jax 3 kids; Sydney, NS, Australia 2888 posts
15th Jul '13

This sounds exactly like how my daughter was at 5-6.
She was up and down constantly through the night, and then she would be so shitty and crabby through the day.
I did my own research on it, and it turned out she had sleep apnea, along with large adenoids and tonsils. They didn't even do a sleep study on her.
She had her adenoids and tonsils out last year and sleeps great ever since. And her behaviour during the day has improved some too.
Does she sweat a lot while she is sleeping? Sleep walk\talk? Snore?

ChristinaLynne Due October 7 (boy); 2 kids; Pancake, TX, United States 28969 posts
15th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" She has done 3mgs and 5 mgs and neither one did much. The 5 mgs made her a grumpy girl though"</blockquote>




:( I'm really sorry. Maybe make it darker, some relaxing music, lavender?

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
15th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" I think I put that we have tried Melatonin with no success"</blockquote>




How big of a dose??? We "reset" ds2s clock using it. He was up like Cora is from birth till 3yrs old. We used it for 6m & he has slept better ever since. It was like his body didnt know he was supposed to sleep all night. The crankiness resulting from his extreme exhaustion was terrible.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56007 posts
status 15th Jul '13
Quoting BOB MARLEY
LA REINA™ New York, NY, United States 16186 posts
15th Jul '13
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" yup. Starting around 6:45, it's bath or shower, then 20 minutes of coloring and a light snack (usually ... [snip!] ... of snuggle and I leave. She has no problem going to bed. She just can't physically sleep more than 2-3 hours at a time"

Yeah, I'd definitely talk to a doctor about it because it sounds like you are doing everything you're supposed to do to help her get a good night of sleep. Good luck.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56007 posts
status 15th Jul '13
Quoting J&T+3:" This sounds exactly like how my daughter was at 5-6. She was up and down constantly through the night, ... [snip!] ... And her behaviour during the day has improved some too. Does she sweat a lot while she is sleeping? Sleep walk\talk? Snore?"


She sweats like crazy and talks in her sleep



but she has seen an ENT 3 times in her life and he never mentioned getting them removed (and he knows about her sleep issues)

Jax 3 kids; Sydney, NS, Australia 2888 posts
15th Jul '13
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" She sweats like crazy and talks in her sleep but she has seen an ENT 3 times in her life and he never mentioned getting them removed (and he knows about her sleep issues)"


Could you see someone else then?
As soon as my daughter had hers removed, its like she is a whole different child.