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Cast Your Vote:

    • All women can EBF if they want it enough. -- Votes: 15
    • Some women cannot; enter formula. -- Votes: 82
Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 6004 posts
20th Jul '13

Nope. I couldn't. I didn't produce enough milk. And as far as women doing it before formula, I would remind that poster that while formula wasn't available 200 years ago a wet nurse was and normally used in situations like mine.

Hollymailhot 1 child; Laporte, Minnesota 374 posts
20th Jul '13

I'm very much a breastfeeding advocate but obviously there are always going to be some people who can not successfully breastfeed for one reason or another. Even some animals can not nurse their young. Some don't get a milk supply just like some woman don't and many other reasons. So it just seems like common sense that there are always going to be issues that can come up that prevent it.

Emmybean 1 child; Plymouth, United Kingdom 1649 posts
20th Jul '13

I saw a page on facebook that totally slated women who don't EBF and say how we are all moaning, weak individuals that didn't do the best for our children. Utter shit. I did have awful PPD that landed me in hospital twice. I breast fed for two weeks and went through incredible trauma after my birth and gave up EBFing but then I found out about these IDIOTS that say women who don't EBF are weak so I spent the next SIX MONTHS trying to relactate and I let it rule my life because I thought if I didn't EBF then I was a shit mum. I missed so many of my babies smiles and giggles because I was pressured to do something I didn't need to do.
Stop judging and actually let people get on with their own fucking lives.

HamHam 18 kids; India 3485 posts
21st Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting A&H's mommy {TKO}:</b>" This is spawned from something I saw on FB. A petition to ask Similac to pull their formula designed ... [snip!] ... Do you think that if a woman is unsuccessful in breastfeeding it's because of supplementation, or is it not so black and white?"</blockquote>



I was able to BF my daughter just fine, but my second baby was born 8 weeks early and for some reason my body was not producing milk. I had my blood drawn and prolactin levels were almost non existent. I went through hell trying to get milk supply up and eventually took medication, even though I was concerned about side effects. I was desperate to get my milk supply up. My child needed the preemie formula and I don't think it's anyone's business how I choose to feed my child as long as they're being fed according to the pediatrician's recommendations/instructions.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
21st Jul '13

I think the vast majority of people CAN breastfeed, with the right support and information. There are a few who medically can't, but I think they are a minority. Often when women "can't" it has more to do with a lack of information, time, things like that which can create issues in breastfeeding. Like, pumping too early, or needing to go back to work so soon, not being able to pump enough, or not knowing how growth spurts work.



However, it doesn't matter. What I mean is that even though the majority I believe are physically able to breastfeed, they have every right not to do it. Their kids will be just fine. It isn't an issue. I think a lot of people say they couldn't, but that has more to do with individual life factors rather then physically being unable to. Again, that is okay though.



Just because a woman can breastfeed doesn't mean she should feel forced to. Just because most problems can be worked around or fixed, doesn't mean a mother should feel like she HAS to do whatever it takes to make it work. So, while most women can, women don't have to and shouldn't feel like they have to.

The Masochism Tango 1 child; New York 108 posts
21st Jul '13

A VERRRRYYY few cannot. Most can. Statistically it's such a small number who legit can't and I have a very hard time believing it when people say they can't.



I think now that the push back against formula feeding has begun, and the information of why breast is best is out there and widely available, people feel guilty about not doing it even when they could, so they just lie and say they weren't able to.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Masochism Tango:</b>" A VERRRRYYY few cannot. Most can. Statistically it's such a small number who legit can't and I have a ... [snip!] ... widely available, people feel guilty about not doing it even when they could, so they just lie and say they weren't able to."</blockquote>




I agree that very few can't BF at least a little. But, a significant cant EBF for more than a few months. Might we be able to if women had a very simple life of living in a cave and not having to much besides survive and kid her kids alive? Maybe, but that's not how it is in the developed world.

Proginoskes II 3 kids; North Carolina 1295 posts
21st Jul '13

I made it 3 months with my daughter. I was depressed and said fuck it, we were all happier with her being a formula baby.
My boys, I pumped while they were in the hospital, and for a while after they got home, but quit after they turned 5 months old. Exclusively pumping was just as stressful as actually breastfeeding, and I hated both. So I stopped because it was annoying and I didn't like it. In my opinion, I did just fine and I have no regrets. They'll be getting weaned off of formula soon anyway.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
22nd Jul '13
Quoting The Masochism Tango:" A VERRRRYYY few cannot. Most can. Statistically it's such a small number who legit can't and I have a ... [snip!] ... widely available, people feel guilty about not doing it even when they could, so they just lie and say they weren't able to."


would you like to see all the medical reports I got?

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
22nd Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Masochism Tango:</b>" A VERRRRYYY few cannot. Most can. ... [snip!] ... a cave and not having to much besides survive and kid her kids alive? Maybe, but that's not how it is in the developed world."


I think its interesting that the developed countries with the highest breast feeding rates are also those that offer 12 months paid maternity leave

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
22nd Jul '13
Quoting The Masochism Tango:" A VERRRRYYY few cannot. Most can. Statistically it's such a small number who legit can't and I have a ... [snip!] ... widely available, people feel guilty about not doing it even when they could, so they just lie and say they weren't able to."

I don't think it's "guilt" so much as it is not wanting the bullshit and hassle of being HOUNDED by breastfeeding "advocates".



"Could Not" is very much and end-of-story statement. "Would not/Did not want to" are ,although honest, just fodder for those who love to attack others' choices.

Mama Lizzy :] 1 child; Texas 5575 posts
22nd Jul '13

I think a big problem lies within our culture.....boobs are wayyy oversexualized here.



I think there are several reasons that women have trouble and you couple that with their lack of support/acceptance ...it can be extremely difficult to build or keep any motivation to keep on.



The first few months are difficult for most women.



Physically the numbers are small as to just not being able to produce....but then additionally you have all the possible complications.



I am very thankful for my lactation consultant ....I had several obstacles I had to overcome in the first 4 months. Right now at 20 months I am fighting mastitis for the second time this month for just being overworked really.



Sorry rambeling....what I mean is there are alot of possible complications :)... and commonly lack of support

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
22nd Jul '13
Quoting Mama Lizzy :]:" I think a big problem lies within our culture.....boobs are wayyy oversexualized here. I think there ... [snip!] ... really. Sorry rambeling....what I mean is there are alot of possible complications :)... and commonly lack of support"


what I think is the most interesting thing is that men only find breasts sexy because of the animal instinct that large mammary glands means a more likely chance of the female being able to feed any offspring. Therefore making them a desired mate. The same goes apparently for hip size.



So ultimately breasts are sexualized BECAUSE of breast feeding.

Emmybean 1 child; Plymouth, United Kingdom 1649 posts
22nd Jul '13

There are lots of animals that are unable to feed their offspring so humans have to hand rear them or if there are not any humans to hand rear them the offspring just die. It isn't just a 'lazy human' thing it is seen across all species.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
22nd Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TG3:</b>" I think its interesting that the developed countries with the highest breast feeding rates are also those that offer 12 months paid maternity leave"</blockquote>




Maybe we should keep women from the workplace so that more babies are BFd :)