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Forced to remove bra RCMP *D&D* Kimber-lily Due September 27 (girl); 4 kids; Nova Scotia 28962 posts
21st Jul '13

Just curious to what opinions are on this? Do you think officers have the right to remove someones bra?



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2013/07/18/sk-rcmp-bra-removal-130718.html
A judge in Saskatchewan says an RCMP detachment needs to take a "fresh look" at its procedures after officers forcibly removed a bra from a woman arrested for impaired driving.
Wanda Deschambault was arrested in July 2012 after a truck hit a monument in Lebret, about 80 kilometres northeast of Regina.
Deschambault refused to take off her bra when she was put in a cell, so one officer held her arms behind her back while another reached under her shirt to unclasp the bra.
Deschambault told CBC News Thursday that she asked for a female officer or matron at the Fort Qu'Appelle RCMP detachment and she resisted having her bra removed by males.
"I felt really degraded," she said. "I felt humiliated. I felt cheap

user banned Due April 6; TTC since Nov 2010; 1 child; New Vegas, NV, United States 4194 posts
21st Jul '13

Well It could be used as a suicide/homicide device. Could have made her take it off gives her too much control though

Kimber-lily Due September 27 (girl); 4 kids; Nova Scotia 28962 posts
21st Jul '13

I just know that I have been arrest a couple times before and they had never asked me to take my bra off. The very most they did was have a female officer run her finger under the inside of my wire to see if I was holding anything.



I don't think she should have been forced to take her bra off. She wasn't even found guilty of drunk driving. And why are trained officers afraid of a bra wire? lol

user banned Vancouver, British Columbia 5643 posts
21st Jul '13

It's the same reason they take your shoes and sweater. You could strangle yourself or someone else with it.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
21st Jul '13

I think it's crazy. It's a bra. . . and her request was to have a female do it, which isn't an unreasonable request. I mean, I would FLIP it a man restrained me to remove my bra. Nope, that would NOT go well. It could have been so easily handled by having a female officer take care of it like was requested, assuming it was even needed.

Alexandra the gay 2 kids; 2 angel babies; El Paso, Texas 6702 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Kimber-lily:" I just know that I have been arrest a couple times before and they had never asked me to take my bra ... [snip!] ... to take her bra off. She wasn't even found guilty of drunk driving. And why are trained officers afraid of a bra wire? lol"


Prisoners can make weapons out of virtually anything, that's just how it goes.
ESPECIALLY a metal wire in a bra.

Colt's mommy 1 child; Moore, Oklahoma 22172 posts
21st Jul '13

It says she refused to take it off herself so they had to forceably do it. Sounds like she was just trying to be a bitch by asking for a female to do it (as opposed to just taking it off when they asked her). I see no issues. My DH takes old ladies bras off at work when needed and it's not an issue.

Kimber-lily Due September 27 (girl); 4 kids; Nova Scotia 28962 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Mrs. Tebow:" Prisoners can make weapons out of virtually anything, that's just how it goes. ESPECIALLY a metal wire in a bra. "


I just don't agree that officers can sexually assault someone and it be 'okay'.
I would never remove my bra for anyone. If they are honestly afraid of a bra wire, then they should probably be in a different profession.
What would they do if they did a metal detector scan and found someone had nipple piercings... hold them down to remove those too?

Ladee+Grant+Lilly 2 kids; Tallahassee, FL, United States 20882 posts
21st Jul '13

I don't have a problem with them having her remove it, for safety reasons for all involved, but I DO have a problem that she repeatedly asked for a female officer to do it and they still used males. *I* personally wouldn't be uncomfortable male or female, but I can see where someone else might be. If she were THAT belligerent, they could have slapped her back in handcuffs until they got a female officer to remove it for her then put her in her cell.

user banned Vancouver, British Columbia 5643 posts
21st Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kimber-lily:</b>" I just don't agree that officers can sexually assault someone and it be 'okay'. I would never remove ... [snip!] ... would they do if they did a metal detector scan and found someone had nipple piercings... hold them down to remove those too?"</blockquote>




Maybe they didn't have a female officer or didn't have one available. It's small town sask they barely have any cops.

Alexandra the gay 2 kids; 2 angel babies; El Paso, Texas 6702 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Kimber-lily:" I just don't agree that officers can sexually assault someone and it be 'okay'. I would never remove ... [snip!] ... would they do if they did a metal detector scan and found someone had nipple piercings... hold them down to remove those too?"


They're not afraid, it's policy. How is it sexual assault?
Why is it that whenever anything like this happens it is automatically deemed as sexual assault?
She was trying to be a bitch. Fair and square.
Most places have the officer run their hand through the inside of the bra to make sure they aren't hiding paraphernalia.
Now, I would much rather the officer be a dick and unstrap my bra then run his hands on my tits.

Kimber-lily Due September 27 (girl); 4 kids; Nova Scotia 28962 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Mrs. Tebow:" They're not afraid, it's policy. How is it sexual assault? Why is it that whenever anything like this ... [snip!] ... aren't hiding paraphernalia. Now, I would much rather the officer be a dick and unstrap my bra then run his hands on my tits."


I don't think not wanting to remove her bra is being a bitch?
She was arrested for something she didn't even do. Are we supposed to be treated like shit until proven innocent?



ETA: If two strange men in a mall held down a woman and took off her bra, that would be sexual assault... no?
But for two strange men of the 'law' do it, it's okay?

Alexandra the gay 2 kids; 2 angel babies; El Paso, Texas 6702 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Kimber-lily:" I don't think not wanting to remove her bra is being a bitch? She was arrested for something she didn't ... [snip!] ... down a woman and took off her bra, that would be sexual assault... no? But for two strange men of the 'law' do it, it's okay?"



It wouldn't be okay for 2 strange men to handcuff a woman against her will either but cops do it.
Comparing the two is completely ignorant.

Colt's mommy 1 child; Moore, Oklahoma 22172 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Mrs. Tebow:" It wouldn't be okay for 2 strange men to handcuff a woman against her will either but cops do it. Comparing the two is completely ignorant. "


This!

Kimber-lily Due September 27 (girl); 4 kids; Nova Scotia 28962 posts
21st Jul '13
Quoting Mrs. Tebow:" It wouldn't be okay for 2 strange men to handcuff a woman against her will either but cops do it. Comparing the two is completely ignorant. "


I don't think it is. How do you know that an officer is not a sexual predator? Just because he is wearing a uniform doesn't mean he is a decent human being.