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Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 7096 posts
Jul 26th '13
Quoting M&D's Momma:" What I don't understand is why when black people want to protest they have to be questions about it. ... [snip!] ... just tired of white people thinking they have control over when the race conversation can be played. It makes no sense to me."


I have a few questions...



1) Where are you getting your statistics that white on white crime is as high as black on black crime? I heard on the news yesterday that the murder rates for blacks is 10 times higher than whites and latinos combined. Their source was stated but I can't remember what they said.



2) We currently have gun laws and the criminals still have guns and kill each other. How will more strict gun laws be any different, especially since the areas with the most strict gun laws usually have the highest crime rates? It seems to me the law abiding citizens have few guns and the criminals have many. That's not a good thing.



3) What is the daily injustice that the blacks endure within our judicial system?

Nicola. 2 kids; Manton, MI, United States 12915 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting Kaleighshaleigh:" I have a few questions... 1) Where are you getting your statistics that white on white crime is as ... [snip!] ... have many. That's not a good thing. 3) What is the daily injustice that the blacks endure within our judicial system?"


The numbers of these murders are about the same. But whites are 70 something percent of the population, and blacks are roughly 13 percent. So technically the amount of crimes are the same but when you look at how many more white people there are, blacks commit way more on one another.
It's early, so I hope I worded that in a way that makes sense. lol



When you look at strictly numbers, you are not getting a clear picture. So you are both technically right. But her saying black on black and white on white homicide is about equal, is far from the truth.

Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 7096 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting Nicola.:" The numbers of these murders are about the same. But whites are 70 something percent of the population, ... [snip!] ... are both technically right. But her saying black on black and white on white homicide is about equal, is far from the truth."


I'm sorry, but I don't understand how they are about the same...here is my way of thinking, maybe I'm missing something....



Smaller population with higher murder numbers about the same as Larger population with lower murder numbers plus another smaller population with lower numbers ....I'm not seeing how that's about the same. The number of murders within that community was said to be TEN TIMES that of the White and Latino communities combined. Regardless of the population number...the murder number is egregious!



I'm not talking about the percentage of murders based on population. I'm talking about actual cases of murder. You would think in a larger population like the White population that number would be higher simply because of the larger number of people...but it's not the case at all.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Jul 27th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting M&D's Momma:</b>" Well, just because something is a law, doesn't make it right. Many people do believe he was racially ... [snip!] ... Maybe just ask a black person what really the issues are and you'll learn something. Post and run, I'm leaving the house."</blockquote>




Privileged white FOX news? I love how that's always where people go with these arguments.



Recently in Houston, we had a black lady shoot and kill a black man at a gas station. From the video, it does appear that he was harassing her. However, there were also a lot of people around and she had the ability to call for help instead of pulling a shotgun from her trunk. Quanell X, who just a couple weeks ago was calling for a repeal of stand your ground, is now saying she had the right to defend herself. Why is that man's life worth less than Trayvon's? Why did she shoot him, finish filling up her car and leave, and no one is shouting about her using excessive force?

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting M&D's Momma:" What I don't understand is why when black people want to protest they have to be questions about it. ... [snip!] ... just tired of white people thinking they have control over when the race conversation can be played. It makes no sense to me."


Number 1: this isn't a white/black issue. Zimmerman is a Cuban Jew.



Number 2: White people are not trying to control the race conversation. What you're not understanding is that most white people were just as divided on whether or not Zimmerman should have been found guilty. Also, a lot of white people, myself included, are really sick of being called racist when race is the last thing on our minds. Are there racist white people? Absolutely. Are there racist black people? Absolutely. But most of the time that simply isn't a factor in decisions we make. What's messed up is that when white people say over and over again that race didn't matter, either we are accused of trying to control the conversation or just outright lying. If we don't all bend over and apologize, we are automatically the bad people.



If there are so many issues within the black community that you say need to be fixed, then you need to look to your leaders who are too busy hosting television interviews to actually address the real problems. Start realizing that your beloved Democrat leaders want us dependent on their system; they don't want to help people get out from under it. You can take every gun off the street and create a thousand different laws, but if people don't change, the problem will persist. It's up to people to fix their situations, not the government.



And now I'm stepping off my soapbox.

Oncemore Suq Madiq, SH, Turkey 1899 posts
Jul 27th '13

Rinse and repeat...

Destinite 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 34639 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting Bangtail:" Number 1: this isn't a white/black issue. Zimmerman is a Cuban Jew. Number 2: White people are not ... [snip!] ... the problem will persist. It's up to people to fix their situations, not the government. And now I'm stepping off my soapbox."


Amen!

Destinite 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 34639 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting Nicola.:" The numbers of these murders are about the same. But whites are 70 something percent of the population, ... [snip!] ... are both technically right. But her saying black on black and white on white homicide is about equal, is far from the truth."

This!

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting M&D's Momma:" What I don't understand is why when black people want to protest they have to be questions about it. ... [snip!] ... just tired of white people thinking they have control over when the race conversation can be played. It makes no sense to me."


"injustice in the black community" has nothing to do with this case. Protest something that will make a difference for black people like the injustice of allowing chronically failing schools to have anything to do with our children. THAT is an injustice in the black community. Protest sperm donors. THAT is injustice in the black community.
Protest parents who don't have constructive relationships with their child's teacher. THAT'S injustice in the black community.

Nicola. 2 kids; Manton, MI, United States 12915 posts
Jul 27th '13
Quoting Kaleighshaleigh:" I'm sorry, but I don't understand how they are about the same...here is my way of thinking, maybe I'm ... [snip!] ... the White population that number would be higher simply because of the larger number of people...but it's not the case at all."


You are looking at the big picture, and you are correct.



What I was saying is she was technically right too. When you look at the numbers at the end of the year statistically, the numbers of white on white and black on black murders are pretty close. She just didn't look at the fact that blacks are only about 13% of the population. Which means in the big picture, they commit way more murders of their own race.

Nicola. 2 kids; Manton, MI, United States 12915 posts
Jul 29th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" I just need one person to point me in the right direction to see this poof of stereotyping, profiling. Can you do it? Or will you just make excuses like the others?"


Excuses and speculation is all they can say because there is no proof.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Jul 29th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" Excuses and speculation is all they can say because there is no proof."</blockquote>




You don't need proof in this country when you shout racism. You're guilty as soon as you're accused. People are more suspicious of women who accuse someone of rape than they are of minorities who accuse a white person of racism.