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Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14109 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting Just Ames:" This is where I'm at. My Son was in a stroller until he was almost 4 because he'd bolt and act crazy ... [snip!] ... He follows a curriculum at daycare which is pretty much a Pre-K program but it's not as demanding as school will be."


Yeah DS has some extreme meltdowns. He receives home therapy for global delays and his teachers struggle to get him to concentrate for more than 30 seconds. He forgets things/regresses all the time. He's constantly yelling, screaming, making weird noises and growling - not in anger, he just thinks it's funny even though it's annoying as f**k. :lol: He'll bolt in a store the second my back is turned.



I also have hope that in pre-k he'll behave more like the other kids since it's a group setting and that a lot of his "quirks" are just silly things he'll grow out of but....we'll see.

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 22050 posts
status 24th Jul '13

My older son has been diagnosed with ADHD. It was been suggested by several teachers that he also has Asperger's as well. He has OCD (obsessive hand washing, collects crap, won't cut his finger nails). I've been told that all of these things are often comorbid. It took me several years to get the diagnosis (teachers just thought he was a brat/ misfit because he would run off or cry and wanted to suspend him). He got "exited" from 2 schools, one private another public but not our "home" school.
He went through an IEP where they diagnosed him with low IQ (77) and an emotional disability. I later took him to be reevaluated and that's when he was found to have ADHD. That was when he was 8, he's been on medicine since. He's 12 now and further testing (while medicated) revealed that he does not have a Low IQ, but rather a near genius IQ (141) and he is in all advanced classes and the gifted student program. He also doesn't have an emotional disability, he has extreme impulsiveness and immaturity caused by the ADHD.



For my son diagnosis and treatment has been life-changing, I do think drs and parents are sometimes too quick to jump on the ADHD train and that there are many kids who are diagnosed when they may not have it. I feel it should only be treated if it is causing significant difficulties for the child.



As for whether it's misdiagnosed in those that have Autism? I'm not sure. Even though I am pretty certain he has it, my son has not been diagnosed with Aspergers and his psych sees no reason he should be "branded" (her words) with that diagnosis if the adhd symptoms are the only ones that seem to be negatively affecting him. There are social aspects that he works on as well but he has been doing very well with those, he has to work harder than others to make connections with others but eventually he does and is very personable/ likable.

Good Queen Bess 2 kids; Ontario 45937 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting K and N:" I wonder if this is my problem... I have no directional sense what so ever. Seriously though, I do ... [snip!] ... that every other option should be exhausted before jumping onto the medication band wagon. Aren't ADHD pills addictive?"


Some are. Many children of ADHD meds need to be put on other medication to combat the side effects of the ADHD meds.



The first group of children who were put on meds are now young adults, and they are experiencing a lot of major issues because of being over-medicated or medicated unnecessarily. Depression, chemical imbalances, suicidal thoughts, etc.



There were no longitudinal studies on drugs like Ritalin, they were just handed out en masse.

Jenny&Boopy TTC since Jul 2014; 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7326 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Simply, Mom (TTC #3):</b>" I have ADHD and have been diagnosed since 5 and am now 24. Mine was very severe and I was VERY hyoeractive. ... [snip!] ... around unsupervised while she picked up her Kindergartner she was pissed and said that they dont understand her kids have ODD"</blockquote>




I'm not sure how real ODD is honestly. A lot of the symptoms are mirrored with ADHD. Since my son is on meds for the ADHD, the ODD symptoms pretty much subsided. Could it be used an excuse in some cases? Probably. I didn't worry about it too much since he has much larger issues. I know there is a mom on here that has a child with severe issues and one of there diagnosis's was ODD. But I'm not sure if their problems stem from that or the other issues.

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 22050 posts
status 24th Jul '13
Quoting Just Ames:" This is where I'm at. My Son was in a stroller until he was almost 4 because he'd bolt and act crazy ... [snip!] ... He follows a curriculum at daycare which is pretty much a Pre-K program but it's not as demanding as school will be."


yep, my son did this until he began treatment. He did it when we were out in public, he did it at school. My now 2yr old walks next to the shopping cart with minimal guidance in grocery stores, something my 8yr old never was able to do. It was a definite struggle to say the least.

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 22050 posts
status 24th Jul '13
Quoting Just Ames:" See my Son isn't the same across the board which boggles me. The only sense I can make of it is anxiety ... [snip!] ... been told) as far as raising his hand to answer questions, etc. So who knows, lol. Either way I'm just taking it day by day."


I think that's a good stance to take. It is what I tried to do and when it came to deciding to put him on meds or not I had a horrible time with it, it wasn't something I took lightly. It took a lot of thought but I decided that ultimately being treated for it was in my son's best interest. That's not to say that it is for EVERY child, some of the symptoms can be manageable and some kids do seem to "grow out" of them or they decrease in severity over time.

Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14109 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting Just Ames:" Well if he's anything like my Son (which it sounds like it) he'll do fine in Pre-K. I have noticed my ... [snip!] ... home vs there. Anyway, I think he'll grow out of his quirks too but like I said earlier, I'm remaining cautiously optimistic."


Okay, that gives me hope. He does behave well with other kids...he's not constantly trying to cause trouble or anything. He doesn't seem to know how to interact with kids very well - he's always screaming in their faces or trying to act like a dinosaur and it annoys them - but I can't expect too much since he's just with me and his 13 month old brother all day.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23055 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tegan;thee lovely lesbian:</b>" What do you think about the abundance of children being diagnosed and medicated with/for ADHD? My brother ... [snip!] ... told me his youngest medicated ADHD patient is two years old. :shock: I'm just curious about everyone's thoughts on ADHD. "</blockquote>




I think it is WAY over diagnosed and medicated.
It's easier to give a healthy but difficult kid a pill than to use consistent discipline and constructive ways of teaching and molding appropriate behavior.
Additionally, schools are often forced to put the difficult kids in with the good kids. THAT isn't fair to anyone and drives parents to medicate.

Jenny&Boopy TTC since Jul 2014; 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7326 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tegan;thee lovely lesbian:</b>" What do you think about the ... [snip!] ... are often forced to put the difficult kids in with the good kids. THAT isn't fair to anyone and drives parents to medicate."</blockquote>




But what do you do when none of the discipline works because the child has a legitimate problem that cannot be corrected with discipline? What do you do when despite everyone's best efforts they are struggling with school despite being a very smart child?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23055 posts
24th Jul '13
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Jenny&Boopy TTC since Jul 2014; 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7326 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" A said it's WAY over Dxd and medicated. But, I DO believe there are real cases of ADHD. I'm not denying that."</blockquote>




Understandable. Sorry if I jumped the gun, there's just a lot of people who think it's never a real thing.

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 22050 posts
status 24th Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tegan;thee lovely lesbian:</b>" What do you think about the ... [snip!] ... are often forced to put the difficult kids in with the good kids. THAT isn't fair to anyone and drives parents to medicate."


I'd just like to say that I somewhat resent the opinion you've expressed. By comparing the "difficult" kids to the "good" kids it implies that the "difficult" ones are "bad". Implying that parents who medicate their children are looking for a quick fix and that all they really need is consistent "discipline" is a very common, yet uneducated opinion on ADHD. The symptoms are wholly misunderstand by many people, it is not a case of discipline, it is caused by a lack of impulse control that stems from the over or under production of several neurotransmitters in the brain. If it were a discipline issue the "quick fix" pill is not going to help the behavior.
For most parents the choice to treat the child is an agonizing one, it's not often a matter of convenience. This line of thinking makes it an even more difficult decision for parents who have children like mine. Not only does it imply that you are not a very good parent (your child is bad/ lacking discipline) but that you are unnecessarily medicating your child for your own convenience.

Jenny&Boopy TTC since Jul 2014; 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7326 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting AllAboardTheCrazyTrain!!!:</b>" I'd just like to say that I somewhat resent the opinion you've expressed. By comparing the "difficult" ... [snip!] ... parent (your child is bad/ lacking discipline) but that you are unnecessarily medicating your child for your own convenience. "</blockquote>




I have to agree. It wasn't a very good way to word things. It came off more I don't believe in it and you're a lazy parent than it's just over diagnosed but I know it's a real condition.

user banned 2 kids; Minnesota 7318 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting Simply, Mom (TTC #3):" I have ADHD and have been diagnosed since 5 and am now 24. Mine was very severe and I was VERY hyoeractive. ... [snip!] ... around unsupervised while she picked up her Kindergartner she was pissed and said that they dont understand her kids have ODD"


ODD is most definitely a real disorder but it isn't an excuse to not discipline, lol. Maybe that mom just gave up. My kids DON'T have ODD and I still just give up some days.

Good Queen Bess 2 kids; Ontario 45937 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" A said it's WAY over Dxd and medicated. But, I DO believe there are real cases of ADHD. I'm not denying that."


I remember when my brother was going through the diagnosis process, it was so simple to have him thrown into that category. The teacher filled out a form, my mom filled out a form and the doctor filled out a form....done. He suddenly became the kid with ADHD, all other testing was stopped and medication was ordered. The school wasn't even going to let him back in without it.



My mom put up a fuss, brought him to a child psychologist and had him screened by special education specialists.....turns out he was dyslexic and had sensory issues. The dyslexia caused him to become frustrated with class work and give up easily and the sensory issues made it hard for him to sit still.



ADHD for many years was a "catch-all" diagnosis.