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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23030 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting AllAboardTheCrazyTrain!!!:" I'd just like to say that I somewhat resent the opinion you've expressed. By comparing the "difficult" ... [snip!] ... parent (your child is bad/ lacking discipline) but that you are unnecessarily medicating your child for your own convenience. "


I agree. My wording didn't express my thoughts on it well. I don't think kids with SN, learning disabilities or ADHD are bad. Perhaps I should have said "easier" and "more challenging."
Also, I don't think all parents who medicate are lazy nor are all teachers who insist on it trying to skirt their responsibilities. There are just a large number who have a foot that fits the shoe.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
24th Jul '13

It is over diagnosed AND over medicated.



I have looked into ADD and ADHD quite extensively, seeing as how HALF of school aged children, in our school district alone, are diagnosed with one, the other, or BOTH.



Without going into detail, I believe poor diet is a key factor. These kids lack NUTRITION. All of our food is over processed. It's got too many additives. It's got too many artificial ingredients, sulfites and the like. Everything is "enriched". Food manipulation plays a HUGE role in vitamin deficiencies and our kids are paying for it. On top of that, psych and mood altering drugs are eaten like friggen candy, by both kids and adults, alike.



Grrr. This topic pisses me off. No offense.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11704 posts
24th Jul '13

all I know is I for sure had/have it and I needed the meds and will get back on them after this next baby for the first time since 07 because I am going back to college and I need to focus.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23030 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It is over diagnosed AND over medicated. I have looked into ADD and ADHD quite extensively, seeing as ... [snip!] ... altering drugs are eaten like friggen candy, by both kids and adults, alike. Grrr. This topic pisses me off. No offense."


I agree BUT don't pick on enriching :-)
We'd be woefully deficient in many vitamins and minerals without enrichment.
I think it's the other junk and not the vits/mins :-)

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 21953 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It is over diagnosed AND over medicated. I have looked into ADD and ADHD quite extensively, seeing as ... [snip!] ... altering drugs are eaten like friggen candy, by both kids and adults, alike. Grrr. This topic pisses me off. No offense."


ADD and ADHD are one in the same, there used to be two diagnoses but now it is one. There are sub-types, combination would be both hyperactivity and inattention, predominately inattentive or predominately hyperactive.




I don't think it's necessarily a matter of nutrition, my household eats mostly non processed, home cooked, fresh foods, no white rice/ flour, no sugary cereals or colored cereals. When my son was diagnosed (and for the 5yrs proceeding the diagnosis) my kids went to a school that had very strict food guidelines, for example they not allow processed sugar to be in their lunches (which were packed by the parents), so they weren't getting it elsewhere.

Jenny&Boopy TTC since Jul 2014; 2 kids; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7317 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" It is over diagnosed AND over medicated. I have looked into ADD and ADHD quite extensively, seeing as ... [snip!] ... altering drugs are eaten like friggen candy, by both kids and adults, alike. Grrr. This topic pisses me off. No offense."</blockquote>



Eh, my kid could and has eaten no sugary foods or drinks, no red dyes, nothing processed whatsoever. It doesn't change anything for him, not even a tiny bit. He has a legitimate medical condition. ADHD is also a largely hereditary disorder. If you have it, your child is likely to have it. If you have other issues such as bipolar as my ex does, your kids are more likely to have issues with one or both things. Do some kids react to diet change? Yes, they do. Those are the ones who do not truly have ADHD or it's very mild to begin with.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
24th Jul '13

The nutritional implications of enrichment vary.

Mama Rice 34 kids; North Las Vegas, Nevada 11980 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting speaktruth2powr:" ADHD is completely over-diagnosed. I once had a class with 24 students in it, 13 of which were diagnosed ... [snip!] ... children. They are little hyper and don't want to sit for 30 minutes while someone talks at them, stick them on medication!"


A daycare teacher tried to tell us that my DD had ADHD and we needed to get her on something, she was 3 days shy of her 4th birthday. My DH and I ignored her and said we would take it seriously if when she got in school her kindergarten teacher thought it was an issue. Her kindergarten teacher said she was fine. It is over diagnosed imo.

user banned Japan 1310 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It is over diagnosed AND over medicated. I have looked into ADD and ADHD quite extensively, seeing as ... [snip!] ... altering drugs are eaten like friggen candy, by both kids and adults, alike. Grrr. This topic pisses me off. No offense."


I was on 90MG at ELEVEN. :shock: :roll:



No joke, at every appointment if he got a bad report from my mom my dosage was increased. After a new pharmacist refused to fill it she switched doctors to one that lowered it to an acceptable dosage.

Ronnie RadKat 4 kids; Arizona 21953 posts
24th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tegan;thee lovely lesbian:</b>" I was on 90MG at ELEVEN. :shock: :roll: No joke, at every appointment if he got a bad report from ... [snip!] ... was increased. After a new pharmacist refused to fill it she switched doctors to one that lowered it to an acceptable dosage."</blockquote>



My son is in 15mg of adderall xr (sp? I always spell it wrong!) and he only takes it on school days or if we're planning on going out somewhere for a long time and it would be easy and possibky dangerous for him to get separated from us (large places like the mall, amusement parks ect) or where he needs to be able yo pay attention (hiking, when went into a public cave)

user banned Japan 1310 posts
24th Jul '13
Quoting AllAboardTheCrazyTrain!!!:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tegan;thee lovely lesbian:</b>" I was on 90MG at ELEVEN. :shock: ... [snip!] ... places like the mall, amusement parks ect) or where he needs to be able yo pay attention (hiking, when went into a public cave)"


Smart plan. Those situations CAN be dangerous if he isn't able to pay attention, like if he gets distracted by something and doesn't notice he's left behind. That's happened to me as a kid lol

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23030 posts
25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" The nutritional implications of enrichment vary.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" The nutritional implications of enrichment ... [snip!] ... Regarding vitamin D, it's REALLY hard to get it in our diet. I'm very happy it's enriched in most of our dairy products."</blockquote>




Point taken. :)

Proginoskes II 3 kids; North Carolina 1295 posts
25th Jul '13

I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was 19.
I wish I could have been diagnosed earlier, but when I was in elementary school, it was something that "only boys have", so words like "lazy" and "troublemaker" were thrown around in reference to me.
I have a lot of trouble with it. I can get lost in my own small town. I'll forget a load of laundry in the washer for 2 or 3 days and have to re-do it. I forget appointments, I'm horrible with time management, and my organizational skills are sorely lacking. I do try to work with what I have, but it's exhausting.