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Teacher fired for leaving sleeping children to put out fire. Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21580 posts
status 25th Jul '13

Thoughts on this?



http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/158833/day_care_teacher_fired_for?utm_medium=sm&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=likeyourkids_fanpage

There's almost no reason a day care teacher should ever leave a group of children unattended, even for a minute. Almost. Putting out a fire that's burning nearby in an attempt to save their lives, however, would be one obvious reason to do so ... or so one would think. When a Florida day care teacher did just that, though, she got fired.
Michelle Hammack was a teacher at Little Temples Childcare facility in Arlington, Florida. According to WTEV, last week the kids in her classroom were napping when she smelled smoke. She peeked her head around a corner into an adjacent room and saw burning children (sorry!) chicken nuggets in the oven. So she did what we'd hope anyone who saw a fire, especially a fire near sleeping children, would do -- she ran to put it out.
When she opened the oven to try to do so, the fire alarm went off, so she says she ran back to her classroom, woke up the kids, and took them all outside. She went back inside to make sure there were no other children there and put out the fire in the oven. Shortly thereafter firefighters arrived.
Phew. You'd think she might deserve a thank-you, right? That's not what she got. Instead she got fired. The day care's owner, Olga Rozhaov, says she shouldn't have left the children no matter what. She told the station:




I fired her only because she left her room. Even though children are sleeping, the teachers are supposed to be there.


I would absolutely say the risk of leaving sleeping children unattended for a few minutes is trumped by a fire. Should she have evacuated the children first? Maybe, but then the fire could have grown. She acted on instinct, and I'd say her instincts were pretty good.
When I saw the headline, I thought there would be more to the story, but it seems pretty cut and dry. I don't understand the owner's rationale at all, but she's not backing down.




It's not acceptable, and if anybody else does the same thing, I will fire again. I will fire them. No question.


Ridiculous. If you think so too, you can sign a petition at Care2 "to right the wrong that was done to Michelle Hammack." It doesn't say how the wrong should be righted, but if it's getting her job back, I'm not sure I would want it with a boss like that.

saageex3 1 child; New York 5777 posts
25th Jul '13

I would rather he leave my kid for a couple minutes to ultimately possibly save their life.



But, on the other hand, it said she led them outside then went back in? I don't know if other teachers were around to watch her group or what but leaving them unattended would also be bad.

lacTAYtor. ☮ 3 kids; North Carolina 4496 posts
25th Jul '13

If a daycare would fire me for that, it's not a daycare I'd wanna work for anyways. It's also not somewhere I'd want my children to attend.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21580 posts
status 25th Jul '13
Quoting saageex3:" I would rather he leave my kid for a couple minutes to ultimately possibly save their life. But, on ... [snip!] ... back in? I don't know if other teachers were around to watch her group or what but leaving them unattended would also be bad."


From the sound of it, the center was horribly understaffed.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Good Queen Bess 2 kids; Ontario 45941 posts
25th Jul '13
Quoting saageex3:" I would rather he leave my kid for a couple minutes to ultimately possibly save their life. But, on ... [snip!] ... back in? I don't know if other teachers were around to watch her group or what but leaving them unattended would also be bad."


But then the kids would be awake, and unattended outside....that makes even less sense.



Plus, the amount of time it would have taken to wake up her students was probably less time than it took for her to put out the fire.



I hope some of the parents stood up for her. This is bullshit.

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
25th Jul '13
Quoting lacTAYtor. ☮:" If a daycare would fire me for that, it's not a daycare I'd wanna work for anyways. It's also not somewhere I'd want my children to attend."


This.

saageex3 1 child; New York 5777 posts
25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting speaktruth2powr:</b>" But then the kids would be awake, and unattended outside....that makes even less sense. Plus, the ... [snip!] ... probably less time than it took for her to put out the fire. I hope some of the parents stood up for her. This is bullshit."</blockquote>




Well that's what I'm saying, doesn't it say she woke them up and brought them outside only to go back inside and put it out? It's wrong to leave them unattended OUTSIDE but as for leaving them in the room asleep while she went and checked what was going on? Totally stupid to get fired for

saageex3 1 child; New York 5777 posts
25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" From the sound of it, the center was horribly understaffed. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation."</blockquote>




Personally I think after she got all the children out, she should have waited with the children and let the fireman do their job. I don't think she should have gotten fired though

Good Queen Bess 2 kids; Ontario 45941 posts
25th Jul '13
Quoting saageex3:" <blockquote><b>Quoting speaktruth2powr:</b>" But then the kids would be awake, and ... [snip!] ... but as for leaving them in the room asleep while she went and checked what was going on? Totally stupid to get fired for"


I suck at life.



I totally misread the article lol.



I agree with you.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21580 posts
status 25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting saageex3:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" From the sound of it, the center was horribly ... [snip!] ... she should have waited with the children and let the fireman do their job. I don't think she should have gotten fired though"</blockquote>




True, but sometimes fire fighters take a whole to get there and there could have been serious damage to the building. I can totally see the director being like "why didn't you do anything to save the building???"

Bad Things 1 child; Blacksburg, SC, United States 17288 posts
25th Jul '13
Quoting saageex3:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" From the sound of it, the center was horribly ... [snip!] ... she should have waited with the children and let the fireman do their job. I don't think she should have gotten fired though"


This..and left the director to help.



It would of been a pity if the fire went out of control, she passed out, and those children were left sleeping in the classroom. I don't think she should have been fired, but I would have wrote her up for it.

Dragon Queen Salem, OR, United States 9896 posts
25th Jul '13

I would've done the same thing and if saving everybody's lives in the facility is something I'd get fired over, so be it. It is listed in the minimum standards for childcare care facilities here in Texas that children are to be attended at all times, however, death trumps any rule. I will save the children in my care and break any rule that tries to stop me. Period. Petition signed.



Also, the idiot who left the chicken nuggets in the oven is the person who should be fired. Where's the story on that?

Yurvette [♥] 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Hyrule Castle, LZ, San Marino 36509 posts
status 25th Jul '13
Quoting speaktruth2powr:" But then the kids would be awake, and unattended outside....that makes even less sense. Plus, the ... [snip!] ... probably less time than it took for her to put out the fire. I hope some of the parents stood up for her. This is bullshit."


I agree!

Klaus 2 kids; Mississippi 23932 posts
25th Jul '13
Quoting Queen(Suckafish):" I would've done the same thing and if saving everybody's lives in the facility is something I'd get fired ... [snip!] ... Also, the idiot who left the chicken nuggets in the oven is the person who should be fired. Where's the story on that? "


I was thinking the same thing.



And if she had stayed outside with the kids, would she have been leaving other classrooms of children inside with the fire? Or were there other teachers and kids outside as well? Since the fire alarm went off when she opened the over.



Overall I don't think she should get fired for it. Sometimes the picture is bigger than being strict about rules.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
25th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting JessieLeeAnne:</b>" This..and left the director to help. It would of been a pity if the fire went out of control, she ... [snip!] ... children were left sleeping in the classroom. I don't think she should have been fired, but I would have wrote her up for it. "</blockquote>




This is what I was kinda thinking. What if something happened. She should have at least yelled for help. I mean heck the director could have come out and put the fire out while she pulled the alarm and got the kids out. I understand her thinking in the moment, but I also wouldn't have fired her. I'd have written her up too.