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Income inequality? TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13

Get ready! Politicians are preparing for more battles in the fall over fiscal matters so our President keeps talking about "income inequality."
What does that mean to you?



The president says one of his priorities is to rebuild ladders of opportunity and reverse income equality. What does that mean to you? How does a government reverse income inequality?

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
29th Jul '13

I would assume that it's not one thing that needs to happen in order to do this. In Canada there has been talk about this as well and some of the top economists in the country have felt that certain things need to be addressed. Things like power shifting, companies will work more towards fair wages than profits, reforming labour laws, strengthening employment standards, raising min. wage, creating universal child care, affordable education, stronger unions, stronger middle class, affordable standard of living including housing and utilities costs and ultimately a more progressive tax system. Sounds so easy right! lol

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting Mama❍:" I would assume that it's not one thing that needs to happen in order to do this. In Canada there has ... [snip!] ... of living including housing and utilities costs and ultimately a more progressive tax system. Sounds so easy right! lol "


But nothing specific and measurable? Just lots of things that sound like they feel good.

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60983 posts
29th Jul '13

Honestly, I have no clue anymore. The government seems to say one thing, but mean and do another. They're not working for "the people".



However, my first thought was that maybe they'll finally fix how much our congress gets paid....but how little work they do. :lol:

KB25 Due January 8; Raleigh, North Carolina 157 posts
29th Jul '13

It means the government is going to try to take over another thing that isn't their business. It's feeding into the war against women thing. How would the government FORCE a private sector company to pay women exactly the same as men? Give everyone the same wage so no one feels left out?
Pretty sure that's called communism.

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" But nothing specific and measurable? Just lots of things that sound like they feel good."


I'm pretty sure I mentioned some specific issues that need addressing. But I'm also pretty sure you just want to talk about how unfair taxing the rich would be. :lol:

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7752 posts
29th Jul '13

The healthcare bill is going to do the exact opposite, if he is referring to the gap between the highest and lowest earners.



I'm very sick of hearing about needing income equality. Everyone has the opportunity to earn a good living. It might be harder for some, but if you want it bad enough, you will figure out a way to make it happen.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting Mama❍:" I'm pretty sure I mentioned some specific issues that need addressing. But I'm also pretty sure you just want to talk about how unfair taxing the rich would be. :lol: "


There was nothing specific about what you stated. Nothing. It was all general.



Taxing the rich is certainly part of Obama's plan, but even if the rich are taxed, that wont do anything for this concept of "income inequality" and "rebuilding the ladders of opportunity."



Sounds like you just want to talk about how unfair everything is. :-)

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting Bangtail:" The healthcare bill is going to do the exact opposite, if he is referring to the gap between the highest ... [snip!] ... to earn a good living. It might be harder for some, but if you want it bad enough, you will figure out a way to make it happen."


I honestly don't know what the truly mean be addressing income inequality and nobody seems to want to detail how to do it and specifically how it would help.
The WH also cant articulate logic "middle-out economics."

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
29th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting homes cool:</b>" Honestly, I have no clue anymore. The government seems to say one thing, but mean and do another. They're ... [snip!] ... my first thought was that maybe they'll finally fix how much our congress gets paid....but how little work they do. :lol:"</blockquote>




<applause>

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" There was nothing specific about what you stated. Nothing. It was all general. Taxing the rich is ... [snip!] ... inequality" and "rebuilding the ladders of opportunity." Sounds like you just want to talk about how unfair everything is. :-)"


Actually I listed several things to discuss which you chose to ignore and make a blanket statement about generalizations. You brought it up, I was offering suggestions about what it could possibly mean to "rebuild the ladders of opportunity". How do you expect me to talk about specifics if there have not been any specifics mentioned by the gov themselves? I didn't realize you just wanted people to chime in to agree with how stupid Obama is and how clueless the government is when it comes to the economy and getting up in everyone's business.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting Mama❍:" Actually I listed several things to discuss which you chose to ignore and make a blanket statement about ... [snip!] ... how stupid Obama is and how clueless the government is when it comes to the economy and getting up in everyone's business. "


I have read your list 5 times to be sure. There is nothing specific in there.

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting TheNuge:" I have read your list 5 times to be sure. There is nothing specific in there."


What specifically more do you need to know about raising the minimum wage or creating an affordable universal child care system for working families? Because I can't say.. well if you raise it from 10 to 13 dollars or you can only get child care if you are making a specific amount annually?? What specifically are you having a hard time coming to terms with what I listed? Which in no way is even a complete list of issues that could or would help raise the gap. Obviously we have separate issues in Canada, though big business I'm sure is one in the same.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23106 posts
29th Jul '13
Quoting Mama❍:" What specifically more do you need to know about raising the minimum wage or creating an affordable ... [snip!] ... or would help raise the gap. Obviously we have separate issues in Canada, though big business I'm sure is one in the same."


Well, that is a start :-)
Here in the US, we have first-hand experience with what happens with raised minimum wage - very high unemployment among young people, fewer jobs and reduced hours. So, raising min wage would not help "income inequality (whatever that is)" nor would it provide any "ladders".



Also, here in the US most, if not all, states offer medical coverage for the "working families." As a compassionate society, kids should have basic coverage but THAT doesn't do anything for "income inequality."
Good jobs and a booming economy provide for a strong middle class with good benefits.

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7752 posts
29th Jul '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama❍:</b>" What specifically more do you need to know about raising the minimum wage or creating an affordable ... [snip!] ... or would help raise the gap. Obviously we have separate issues in Canada, though big business I'm sure is one in the same."</blockquote>




Government regulations drive the price of daycare. The government says you have to have X amount of employees per child depending on the age. So, you say you need to raise minimum wage for said employees, increasing the cost of operation for the daycare. Then, you need to provide these employees with benefits, further increasing operation costs. Those costs have to be passed to the parents in order for the center to stay afloat. So, the center limits the amount of kids it will take in order to keep cost to the parent low. Other parents are essentially forced into the more expensive centers so they can continue working. It's a vicious cycle.