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KNZ. 3 kids; Washington 59255 posts
2nd Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting [[Breezy]]:</b>" The couple did not ruin a family's livelihood. If the family was so worried about possibly going out ... [snip!] ... need to end their patronage to the bakery on their own moral highground. It was the bakery who put themselves out of business."</blockquote>




I agree with this logic.

Mrs. Conan O'Brien 2 kids; Colorado 20924 posts
2nd Sep '13

The bakery IMO. Sure, they have the right to refuse service to whoever. But they should also deal w/ the consequences of their actions :) Bigotry does not look good for any business, just sayin.

Mrs. Conan O'Brien 2 kids; Colorado 20924 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting The Bear and The Bird:" Sexual orientation is a protected right in most states and should be in all. You can't refuse to serve ... [snip!] ... refuse to serve someone because they're black or Jewish, you shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they're gay."


exactly.



& I fail to see how this was NOT discrimation. It CLEARLY was.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31782 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting Autumn Whisper:" I support marriage equality, first of all. I vote both. Yes, it is offensive the bakery refused to ... [snip!] ... couple really should have just gone, "well, F them" and went to another bakery. Fuss did not need to be made to that extent."


Pretty much all of this!

Crystal 3 kids; Hephzibah, Georgia 15566 posts
2nd Sep '13

Why does everyone say they have the right to refuse service to whoever they want? That's not true, even though businesses would like you to believe it with their little signs posted. It is illegal to refuse services (discriminate) based on sexual orientation. The Baker could have avoided this whole incident had he only left that part out. He didn't have to say they didn't cater same sex marriages or especially later say they were abominations of God.

[[Breezy]] 1 child; Savannah, Georgia 15433 posts
2nd Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" I think she was saying, that while not selling them a cookie because they are gay is seriously wrong. ... [snip!] ... as I would never refuse service for that reason, but they had the right too. They shouldn't of lost their business for it. "</blockquote>




Ahh okay yeah I didn't catch what she was trying to say.



But, it's not like the business was taken away from them -- the couple just let people know that they were turned away, which made patrons aware of the owners' ethics, in turn causing people to not want to support their business. It's just cause and effect. To say it was the couple's fault is absurd. What did they not have the right to tell anyone about being turned away? Lol no.

[[Breezy]] 1 child; Savannah, Georgia 15433 posts
2nd Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Crystal

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting [[Breezy]]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Crystal
Mrs. Conan O'Brien 2 kids; Colorado 20924 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" You can't refuse service to someone because of their race so I don't see why you can refuse service to someone because of their sexuality. "


Agree

[[Breezy]] 1 child; Savannah, Georgia 15433 posts
2nd Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" You can't refuse service to someone because of their race so I don't see why you can refuse service to someone because of their sexuality. "</blockquote>




Like I said, I'm pretty sure PRIVATE businesses can. Publicly traded businesses definitely cannot.



ETA: Or maybe I've just been fed lies by the private restaurants I've worked at. :lol:

Crystal 3 kids; Hephzibah, Georgia 15566 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting [[Breezy]]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Crystal
Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting [[Breezy]]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" You can't refuse service to someone because ... [snip!] ... traded businesses definitely cannot. ETA: Or maybe I've just been fed lies by the private restaurants I've worked at. :lol:"


I don't think so. Everyone has civil rights and liberties. You can't discriminate based on race/religion/sexual orientation, etc. I mean, it even says that on Craigslist ads. :lol:

Crystal 3 kids; Hephzibah, Georgia 15566 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" I don't think so. Everyone has civil rights and liberties. You can't discriminate based on race/religion/sexual orientation, etc. I mean, it even says that on Craigslist ads. :lol:"

Then it must be true. Craigslist has spoken. :D

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
2nd Sep '13
Quoting Crystal
I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49343 posts
2nd Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting [[Breezy]]:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Blissful Six:</b>" I think she was saying, that while ... [snip!] ... To say it was the couple's fault is absurd. What did they not have the right to tell anyone about being turned away? Lol no."</blockquote>




Maybe I misinterpreted then. I was thinking the couple organized things to protest against the bakery.