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Is Syria a distraction? TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22964 posts
7th Sep '13

We have monumental problems with our economy.
A report this week from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that we have the lowest participation rate in the work force since the 1970s. This means hundreds of thousands of people continue to just give up working or trying to find a job and just consolidate resources and spend less.



Our country has not had a budget approved since before the iPhone was released.
We have another negotiation coming up very soon to determine how to spend borrowed money.



So, is this crisis we are injecting ourselves into a distraction from our dismal domestic reality?

Colt's mommy 1 child; Moore, Oklahoma 21316 posts
status 7th Sep '13

I don't think so, it's just something that's going on at the same time. Possibly though, since it's very apparent that the majority of Americans are against action.

Lilia's Mama (TTC#2) TTC since Aug 2013; 1 child; Florida 3592 posts
7th Sep '13

This is one of those situations where I understand both sides of the argument. On one side I completely think another war would be awful. I don't want us losing more troops over there, especially since this isn't our fight. Why do we always have to rescue nations that hate us?



But then I see the other side and understand that too. Innocent kids being attacked who can't help themselves and we sit idly by while it happens invites other crazies to use chemical warfare. We don't want that either!



It's a no win situation. Is it a distraction? Sure. But is there ever a calm period in the world where we can just focus on our issues? Nope. There never will be.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
7th Sep '13

For the moment. Could be why it's the only thing jm the news. Syria makes me sad, why people such power controlling f**ks?!??!?? Why can't we just live and let live. f**k people dude....

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's Mama (TTC#2):</b>" This is one of those situations where I understand both sides of the argument. On one side I completely ... [snip!] ... Sure. But is there ever a calm period in the world where we can just focus on our issues? Nope. There never will be."</blockquote>




I completely agree. If I was there and my kids and family were dying, I'd want help. It is the right and moral thing to do, but HOW we can do It and spend all te money for this is beyond me.

Lilia's Mama (TTC#2) TTC since Aug 2013; 1 child; Florida 3592 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's Mama (TTC#2):</b>" This is one of those situations where ... [snip!] ... dying, I'd want help. It is the right and moral thing to do, but HOW we can do It and spend all te money for this is beyond me."</blockquote>




Exactly! There's no good answer unfortunately.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22964 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's Mama (TTC#2):</b>" This is one of those situations where ... [snip!] ... dying, I'd want help. It is the right and moral thing to do, but HOW we can do It and spend all te money for this is beyond me."</blockquote>




Unfortunately, humans in groups often act in humanely. Yes, there will also be atrocities.
My post is not so much about The specifics of Syria as there are other good threads about that.
It's about choosing to make it MORE of a crisis when we have serious domestic issues that need attention. Less than 64% of our "work force" is working . And, the unemployment rate is declining and not reflecting this. 300,000 people STOPPED LOOKING FOR JOBS IN AUGUST. Huh???!!!! Where is the outrage? Maybe it's being smothered by our disasters us situation in Syria.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's ... [snip!] ... FOR JOBS IN AUGUST. Huh???!!!! Where is the outrage? Maybe it's being smothered by our disasters us situation in Syria."</blockquote>




Maybe people took a break from looking to enjoy the rest of the summer. It's shocking numbers. People probably enjoy getting government money instead of working

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22964 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" ... [snip!] ... to enjoy the rest of the summer. It's shocking numbers. People probably enjoy getting government money instead of working"</blockquote>




Lol. That is a totally different debate :)
I DARE you to start a thread about it (just kidding).

Mr. Inappropriate 2 kids; Talofofo, GU, Guam 15032 posts
7th Sep '13

I don't think it's a distraction, since the US needs to have an international policy, as well as a domestic one. So, to me, it's a bit disingenuous when people try to present any non-US crisis (Bosnia, Somalia, cruise missile strikes in Sudan/Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya...et al) as some attempt by the upper echelon of government to distract the US population from some internal scandal.



I do think it's a bit overblown and if we were going to intervene, that should have happened more than a year ago. But, I'm also tired of Russia playing the role of spoiler anytime the UN Security Council drafts a resolution against Syria, even one that simply criticizes the regime for killing so many innocent civilians.



I still remember the criticism Clinton got for the cruise missile strikes, with angry politicians saying it was merely a distraction to pull US focus away from him getting a blowjob and lying about it.

Lilia's Mama (TTC#2) TTC since Aug 2013; 1 child; Florida 3592 posts
7th Sep '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's ... [snip!] ... FOR JOBS IN AUGUST. Huh???!!!! Where is the outrage? Maybe it's being smothered by our disasters us situation in Syria."


It's a big number. I would be interested to find out more specifics of how they figured out that number exactly. 300,000 all in August does sound extreme, but I hate to comment when I don't know more about the specifics about that.



However back to topic. I don't think Syria is a distraction. I know it may seem that way. But really, America always has an issue or I should say issues that we need to focus on. Unfortunately, the rest of the world goes on and there will always be something happening around the world to "distract" us. But is it on purpose or are we making a bigger deal out of it because we want a distraction? No, i dont think so. I actually think this is one of those cases where it deserves some of our time. I mean chemical warfare is worth a second glance. It is another country but it does effect us in many ways. Its humanity at its worst. Especially using it against children. I hope i answered the question better.

loving my three + baby on Due August 10; Mexico 4903 posts
status 7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" ... [snip!] ... to enjoy the rest of the summer. It's shocking numbers. People probably enjoy getting government money instead of working"</blockquote>




Since when does the government just hand out money?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22964 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting αnt:</b>" I don't think it's a distraction, since the US needs to have an international policy, as well as a domestic ... [snip!] ... with angry politicians saying it was merely a distraction to pull US focus away from him getting a blowjob and lying about it."</blockquote>




Oh, I'm not an isolationist by any means and I DO want us to have a role in helping people throughout the world to be more free.
There just seems to be much more unnecessary drama associated with this issue. Obama already has the power to strike Syria. And, he had the same reasons to strike months ago as he does today. Instead, he has delayed and put it to a lengthy, contentious vote.

Lilia's Mama (TTC#2) TTC since Aug 2013; 1 child; Florida 3592 posts
7th Sep '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting αnt:</b>" I don't think it's a distraction, since the US ... [snip!] ... had the same reasons to strike months ago as he does today. Instead, he has delayed and put it to a lengthy, contentious vote."


I think he wants to be very careful. I've seen a lot of stories posted recently about comparing this to when Bush said there were WMD in Iraq. Then we know what happened, there were none. So, many think he's taking this slow to ensure the right choice is made. I believe even some country leaders wanted more proof, before taking a stance on it.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22964 posts
7th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Lilia's Mama (TTC#2):</b>" I think he wants to be very careful. I've seen a lot of stories posted recently about comparing this ... [snip!] ... slow to ensure the right choice is made. I believe even some country leaders wanted more proof, before taking a stance on it."</blockquote>




I was supportive of striking Iraq but in no way can I support striking Assad. The situation is totally different. If we strike Assad it will be to "save face." People should die for our president to save face. And, we shouldn't empower other bad guys in order to save face.