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user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... But the reasoning behind her wanting to homeschool on top of a very smug comment and judgement makes her look rediculous."</blockquote>




You were directing it at the last chick that came in, right?



Shenanigans, I see your point. I think it's all stupid... People are so quick to attack others for different parenting, family choices without thinking bigger. And people who just say yup, this is what I'm doing without any clear logic behind it (OP) and others. Parenting shouldn't be a competition. Just a strive to be better and do better for our children and work towards raising successful independent adults. And not worry so much about who's kid is doing what in school, after school programs. If their happy, growing, learning, reaching toward a goal. If that makes sense.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
11th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... is doing what in school, after school programs. If their happy, growing, learning, reaching toward a goal. If that makes sense."


I agree 100%/ The truth is that no two kids are the same, and no two families are the same. Different things will work for different kids, and when they're all 30 I think a lot of it won't really make any obvious difference. We all just need to do what we feel is best and stop trying to justify our decisions by putting down the other choice.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I agree 100%/ The truth is that no two kids are the same, and no two families are the same. Different ... [snip!] ... We all just need to do what we feel is best and stop trying to justify our decisions by putting down the other choice."</blockquote>



Right. It's the truth.

Phallus Cranium cocksuck, LA, Sri Lanka 109250 posts
12th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... else's care- teaching them, disciplining them, mediating for them... Isn't it really a joint effort in raising your children?"

:?
uh no.



School and daycare are not "raising" our children.
They are assisting in educating them.



I think it's disgusting when self serving a*****es say this.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" our children. They are assisting in educating them. I think it's disgusting when self serving a*****es say this."</blockquote>




Your kids are in their care for half of their waking hours... And that is assuming they don't ride the bus or spend any time before or after school in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 105458 posts
status 12th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" ... [snip!] ... in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?"


since when does caregiver = raising?



A caregiver, or carer is an unpaid relative or friend of a disabled individual who helps that individual with his or her activities of daily living



so no, the teacher doesn't raise my child. I do.

Phallus Cranium cocksuck, LA, Sri Lanka 109250 posts
12th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" ... [snip!] ... in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?"

They are in the care of the school staff while they are on school grounds getting an education.



That is NOT raising a child.



Do you really not understand the difference between being a parent and being a teacher?

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" since when does caregiver = raising? A caregiver, or carer is an unpaid relative or friend of a disabled ... [snip!] ... who helps that individual with his or her activities of daily living so no, the teacher doesn't raise my child. I do."</blockquote>



Okay a co-parent. That sounds offensive. I don't see the logic behind I'm their mother/father/legal guardian, therefore I'm the only one that raises my child. However, the child is in school say 48% of the time even including weekend waking hours and that is not taking into account if the kid has a split household and shared weekends.




My math: home 1 hour before school starts interacting with the adult and if they get home at 4 and go to bed at 9. School from 9-3. And then 16 hours sat. And sun.



30 hours in the care of teacher mon-fri
62 hours at home awake sun-sat




HA I was thinking about this during quiet time. And I should've divided by the total time. So it would be roughly 33%, not 48%.

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 105458 posts
status 12th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" since when does caregiver = raising? ... [snip!] ... at 9. School from 9-3. And then 16 hours sat. And sun. 30 hours in the care of teacher mon-fri 62 hours at home awake sun-sat"


they aren't a parent either. are you really that dense? they are a TEACHER. they teach. i'll even give you care giver. but they don't RAISE my child. I do.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" They are in the care of the school staff while they are on school grounds getting an education. That ... [snip!] ... That is NOT raising a child. Do you really not understand the difference between being a parent and being a teacher?"</blockquote>



Isn't one of the main jobs of being a parent to teach our children? We guide our children to become successful parts of society later. You *i might later* send them to school to help them on their journey to adult hood. You both are working toward a common goal with your kid(s).

Phallus Cranium cocksuck, LA, Sri Lanka 109250 posts
12th Sep '13
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" They are in the care of the school staff while ... [snip!] ... send them to school to help them on their journey to adult hood. You both are working toward a common goal with your kid(s)."

you honesty are not getting it at all.



I can't keep going back and forth with this, you either see it or you don't.



Who did your child learn their moral code from?
Who did your child learn how to treat others from?
Who taught your child any relevant religious beliefs or lack of?
Who taught your child to say please, thank you and do as they are told?
Who taught your child to respect themselves as well as others?
I can go on and on all day but it's obvious that you have no concept of the school system.



If you think standing at the front of the classroom and teaching academics and correcting worksheets is the same as parenting, you are one sad, disillusioned person.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" you honesty are not getting it at all. I can't keep going back and forth with this, you either see it ... [snip!] ... the classroom and teaching academics and correcting worksheets is the same as parenting, you are one sad, disillusioned person."</blockquote>




They don't just teach academics though. Granted a lot of what you listed does come from the home environment... I can see why you would think it was offensive though based on moral conduct etc.

Summerfrost 51 kids; Massachusetts 6862 posts
12th Sep '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" you honesty are not getting it at all. I can't keep going back and forth with this, you either see it ... [snip!] ... the classroom and teaching academics and correcting worksheets is the same as parenting, you are one sad, disillusioned person."


Ok so I'm somewhere in the middle in all of this. My oldest was in daycare until he was 2ish. I worked .. I went to school. The daycare for sure taught him things like potty training and to not hit other kids,etc. To me, wouldn't that be morals and social skills? In a very big way, they were helping to raise my son. I actually don't see the difference personally between what I do now and what they did then. I change diapers .. they change diapers. I feed him and they fed him. I tell him not to smack or bite his brothers .. ditto toward his classmates. They hug them when they have boo-boos. They hold them when they're scared or sad.



You can't stop a child from learning from his environment and that environment isn't always us or our family.




Did my son know I was his mom? Of course.



Now that my son is older and in school.. I feel like he's getting stuff from there that I couldn't do for him. He is absolutely spending more time at school/bus than he is here during the week. This is why a lot of people who are heavily involved in their churches, send their children to private school. It's because they learn more from school than just reading,writing,etc.



My son is in public school in case anyone wanted to know... :D

Kimber's Mommy 1 child; South Carolina 4272 posts
12th Sep '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" While I support homeschooling as well as public and private schooling, I resent the implications that ... [snip!] ... that this picture implies. The things you list are supposed to be taught by a parent rather than a school anyway :?"</blockquote>




This. Also, I was homeschooled for a year from 2nd to 3rd grade. I hated it. I was always bored with the material and lonely. My brothers and I all went to public school and I can assure you we all have a mind of our own, have above average intelligence (don't just memorize random information) and were sat down one on one with my dad (who was the stay at home parent) and did our homework with us. Besides doing homework with us, we were to do regular reading outside of school, were taught how to catch and clean fish, taught to help in the family's very large garden and taught to cook.