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MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jaimilee Anne:</b>" I'm considering homeschooling for all those reasons and many more like it. society gets mad when you ... [snip!] ... christian schools that see eye to eye with me on certain issues. my qualms with public school are political and religious."</blockquote>




Daycare and school don't raise your kids for you. They teach them things you cannot. Also "courtesy of the government"??? Last time I checked daycare is expensive and I paid out of pocket. School supplies, school clothes, I buy that. The only thing that is courtesy of the government is non working parents who can't afford to be non working parents. So I guess daycare is necessary for those that do work :-)

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jaimilee Anne:</b>" I'm considering homeschooling for all those ... [snip!] ... is non working parents who can't afford to be non working parents. So I guess daycare is necessary for those that do work :-)"</blockquote>




? The government pays daycare for low income families who are working, but can't afford child care. And a lot of families who work also receive assistance. :? It's not only those that are unwilling to help themselves.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jaimilee Anne:</b>" ... [snip!] ... care. And a lot of families who work also receive assistance. :? It's not only those that are unwilling to help themselves."</blockquote>




Yeah but saying that public schools and daycares are courtesy of the government is a rude statement. I'm not saying government assistance isn't used, I am saying that people willing to work should be told that they are pawning there children off.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... assistance isn't used, I am saying that people willing to work should be told that they are pawning there children off."</blockquote>




And another rude statement is, "Daycare and school don't raise your kids for you. They teach them things you cannot".



It's okay for you to judge, but not okay for you to be judged?




Working parents who take offense to the thought that you send your children to school and day care to be raised by someone else.. Why is it offensive? Obviously you raise your children when you are both home, but when they are gone for more than half of their waking hours in someone else's care- teaching them, disciplining them, mediating for them... Isn't it really a joint effort in raising your children?

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
11th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... else's care- teaching them, disciplining them, mediating for them... Isn't it really a joint effort in raising your children?"


To me the issue is that the entire "they raise your kids" statement is used as an insult. Personally, I think it takes a lot of people to raise kids, and they're better off with more influences (as long as they are good influences of course). Does school and daycare help raise kids? Sure, but that isn't a bad thing. There are things that you CAN'T teach your kids, because you are one person. You have lived one life. Other people can teach them things because they've lived a different life, know different things. I think that is good.



The problem is that it is used as an insult. It's "I want to raise my own kids," implying that a parent does not raise their kids if they are in daycare or school. Not that it's a joint effort which is a good thing, but it implies a parent does basically nothing but foot the bill and is said AS an insult. It's meant to be that way.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... else's care- teaching them, disciplining them, mediating for them... Isn't it really a joint effort in raising your children?"</blockquote>




When did I judge? And you are arguing the same point as me. Go back a re read both statements I made. I am all about home schooling as long as parents are able to give 100% effort on education for there children to succeed should they choose to go to school later in life. I don't believe anyone should be generalized as pawning there children off because they choose that instead of homeschooling. But the reasoning behind her wanting to homeschool on top of a very smug comment and judgement makes her look rediculous.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... But the reasoning behind her wanting to homeschool on top of a very smug comment and judgement makes her look rediculous."</blockquote>




You were directing it at the last chick that came in, right?



Shenanigans, I see your point. I think it's all stupid... People are so quick to attack others for different parenting, family choices without thinking bigger. And people who just say yup, this is what I'm doing without any clear logic behind it (OP) and others. Parenting shouldn't be a competition. Just a strive to be better and do better for our children and work towards raising successful independent adults. And not worry so much about who's kid is doing what in school, after school programs. If their happy, growing, learning, reaching toward a goal. If that makes sense.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
11th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... is doing what in school, after school programs. If their happy, growing, learning, reaching toward a goal. If that makes sense."


I agree 100%/ The truth is that no two kids are the same, and no two families are the same. Different things will work for different kids, and when they're all 30 I think a lot of it won't really make any obvious difference. We all just need to do what we feel is best and stop trying to justify our decisions by putting down the other choice.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
11th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I agree 100%/ The truth is that no two kids are the same, and no two families are the same. Different ... [snip!] ... We all just need to do what we feel is best and stop trying to justify our decisions by putting down the other choice."</blockquote>



Right. It's the truth.

Phallus Cranium fuknutz, NM, Togo 103378 posts
12th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MomDIA:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♫ boobook ... [snip!] ... else's care- teaching them, disciplining them, mediating for them... Isn't it really a joint effort in raising your children?"

:?
uh no.



School and daycare are not "raising" our children.
They are assisting in educating them.



I think it's disgusting when self serving a*****es say this.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" our children. They are assisting in educating them. I think it's disgusting when self serving a*****es say this."</blockquote>




Your kids are in their care for half of their waking hours... And that is assuming they don't ride the bus or spend any time before or after school in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 103128 posts
12th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" ... [snip!] ... in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?"


since when does caregiver = raising?



A caregiver, or carer is an unpaid relative or friend of a disabled individual who helps that individual with his or her activities of daily living



so no, the teacher doesn't raise my child. I do.

Phallus Cranium fuknutz, NM, Togo 103378 posts
12th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" :? uh no. School and daycare are not "raising" ... [snip!] ... in a daycare program or after/before school program. You honestly don't feel like their teacher is a co-caregiver of sorts?"

They are in the care of the school staff while they are on school grounds getting an education.



That is NOT raising a child.



Do you really not understand the difference between being a parent and being a teacher?

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
12th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" since when does caregiver = raising? A caregiver, or carer is an unpaid relative or friend of a disabled ... [snip!] ... who helps that individual with his or her activities of daily living so no, the teacher doesn't raise my child. I do."</blockquote>



Okay a co-parent. That sounds offensive. I don't see the logic behind I'm their mother/father/legal guardian, therefore I'm the only one that raises my child. However, the child is in school say 48% of the time even including weekend waking hours and that is not taking into account if the kid has a split household and shared weekends.




My math: home 1 hour before school starts interacting with the adult and if they get home at 4 and go to bed at 9. School from 9-3. And then 16 hours sat. And sun.



30 hours in the care of teacher mon-fri
62 hours at home awake sun-sat




HA I was thinking about this during quiet time. And I should've divided by the total time. So it would be roughly 33%, not 48%.

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 103128 posts
12th Sep
Quoting ♫ boobook ♫:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" since when does caregiver = raising? ... [snip!] ... at 9. School from 9-3. And then 16 hours sat. And sun. 30 hours in the care of teacher mon-fri 62 hours at home awake sun-sat"


they aren't a parent either. are you really that dense? they are a TEACHER. they teach. i'll even give you care giver. but they don't RAISE my child. I do.