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Subtle As A Hurricane 2 kids; Texas 4126 posts
19th Sep
Quoting Mrs Redin:" a good friend of mine was very upset his parents did not circumsize him when he was younger and wouldnt ... [snip!] ... :) Also, lots of insurances dont cover it anymore, so financially, you might wish to keep intact! I know mine does not cover it"


Yeah. That's another issue. From multiple people I've talked to, they've said the baby's insurance should cover it, but I don't know if they will cover all or just a percentage.

Nomo 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
19th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Spacetits:</b>" Both of mine recommended against it, but they do them. I am not sure what you're trying to say, not all are for circumcision. :?"</blockquote>



I was sharing my personal experience.

Not Kayla 2 kids; Cold Lake, AB, Canada 33249 posts
status 19th Sep

In Canada, no one covers it. It is not medically necessary at birth, so it isn't covered by our health care... It just doesn't need to be done, they are fine the way they are when they are born.

tinana+2 TTC since Nov 2013; 2 kids; Armpit, of, Ireland 29526 posts
19th Sep
Quoting Subtle As A Hurricane:" We just found out today that this baby is a boy, so now we get to decide on circumcision. What are some ... [snip!] ... I want good, legitimate information. This whole topic is very new to me, so I'm kinda clueless where to start besides Google."


CDC (Center for Disease Control) and AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics). Also definitely talk to your OB and pediatrician. Our boys are both circ'd.

Squid Kid Due July 2; 1 child; 5 angel babies; Tennessee 27495 posts
status 19th Sep

Death rates are higher from circumcision than they are from SIDS. That alone is a dealbreaker for me- I mean, aside from it's not my body.




Study on Circumcision neonatal death:
http://www.mensstudies.com/content/b64n267w47m333x0/?p=f8ad30bbb7c44952b30f255e4485a463&pi=5



http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/



"The study found that approximately 117 neonatal (first 28 days after birth) circumcision-related deaths occur annually in the United States, one out of every 77 male neonatal deaths. The study also identified reasons why accurate data on these deaths are not available, some of the obstacles to preventing these deaths, and some solutions to overcome them.
Previous studies estimated the death rate as low as two per year to as many as 230. The study collected data from hospital records and government sources to attempt to provide a more accurate magnitude of the problem.
To put this in perspective, about 44 neonatal boys die each year from suffocation, and 8 from auto accidents. About 115 boys die annually from SIDS, nearly the same as from circumcision during the same neonatal period (first 28 days from birth)."

Subtle As A Hurricane 2 kids; Texas 4126 posts
19th Sep
Quoting Squid Kid:" Death rates are higher from circumcision than they are from SIDS. That alone is a dealbreaker for me- ... [snip!] ... boys die annually from SIDS, nearly the same as from circumcision during the same neonatal period (first 28 days from birth).""


I was super paranoid about SIDS with DD, so knowing more boys die from circumcision than SIDS is just going to bring out the crazy paranoia again.

Squid Kid Due July 2; 1 child; 5 angel babies; Tennessee 27495 posts
status 19th Sep
Quoting Subtle As A Hurricane:" I was super paranoid about SIDS with DD, so knowing more boys die from circumcision than SIDS is just going to bring out the crazy paranoia again. "


People argue boys might get a UTI if they're intact. But Chances of dying from a UTI are way lower. I mean.. 1 in 77 deaths.. that's a pretty high percentage. And you can treat a UTI.



I just don't see any logical reason to risk something like death over cosmetics.

Nomo 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
19th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Squid Kid:</b>" People argue boys might get a UTI if they're intact. But Chances of dying from a UTI are way lower. ... [snip!] ... high percentage. And you can treat a UTI. I just don't see any logical reason to risk something like death over cosmetics. "</blockquote>




Not mention girls get more UTIs in general and we don't cut them. They also get more infections in general. Yet it's Wrong to cut girls. I'm not sure why it's okay for boys. It makes no sense to me.

Subtle As A Hurricane 2 kids; Texas 4126 posts
19th Sep
Quoting Squid Kid:" People argue boys might get a UTI if they're intact. But Chances of dying from a UTI are way lower. ... [snip!] ... high percentage. And you can treat a UTI. I just don't see any logical reason to risk something like death over cosmetics. "


UTIs are a pain in the ass, but not that big of a deal.

MotherFalcon+2 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Lake Arrowhead, CA, United States 2532 posts
19th Sep

go to drmomma.org



and foreskin isnt a birth defect, it serves its purpose just like the heart does.



what most dont think about is that it causes problems in both the man and his partners sexual health and enjoyment.



circing is a bigger deal than ppl want to believe. its a huge human rights/genital autonomy issue. there is no reason to be circd unless a rare medical reason.

((-We Did It!-)) 1 child; 1 angel baby; Iowa 659 posts
19th Sep

I don't have anything reliable for you to read, sorry about that. But I do want to share my experience.



In a nutshell, I was going to have my son circumcised.. until the nurse & doctor walked in, gave him Tylenol, and said they'd be back in 20 minutes to get him for the procedure.
Only Tylenol was what would be used for his circumcision. At that very moment I refused it.
My nurse told me later that circumcision isn't really serving a medical purpose anymore. Hence the reason a lot of insurance won't cover it, it's becoming more of a cosmetic procedure.

Allissa Specht 35 kids; Essexville, Michigan 5426 posts
19th Sep

I have been with many men who are circ'd and NEVER had a sexual problem. I have been with men who weren't, and had MORE problems with them than those who were circ'd. Just saying.



However, I am against it simply because it can cause some problems. However, I had no choice in the matter with my two boys. They were both born with too much foreskin that was too tight over the tip of their penises. This caused them to be unable to urinate after birth. They had to have medical circumcisions done, so I can't hoenstly say one way or the other if I would have went through with a circumcision in normal circumstances. It is a personal decision. One that you and your husband need to make TOGETHER. Don't worry about anyone else. It's not their child.

Nomo 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
19th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Allissa Specht:</b>" I have been with many men who are circ'd and NEVER had a sexual problem. I have been with men who weren't, ... [snip!] ... a personal decision. One that you and your husband need to make TOGETHER. Don't worry about anyone else. It's not their child."</blockquote>



I'm confused because if your babies weren't urinating after birth, then how we're they urinating in utero? They do that from early on, that's what amniotic fluid is. Just curious I have never heard of this before.

Allissa Specht 35 kids; Essexville, Michigan 5426 posts
19th Sep
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Allissa Specht:</b>" I have been with many men who are circ'd ... [snip!] ... urinating in utero? They do that from early on, that's what amniotic fluid is. Just curious I have never heard of this before."


They swelled after birth. I had low levels in the end of my pregnancies with my boys, and they believe that was the problem. After 24 hours of them not urinating , we began to look into causes and it was determined the foreskin was blocked off at the end. It happens occasionally. Sometimes the swelling recedes and the issue corrects itself. Sometimes it doesn't.

Nomo 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
19th Sep

<blockquote><b>Quoting Allissa Specht:</b>" They swelled after birth. I had low levels in the end of my pregnancies with my boys, and they believe ... [snip!] ... off at the end. It happens occasionally. Sometimes the swelling recedes and the issue corrects itself. Sometimes it doesn't."</blockquote>




Oh okay. Thanks for answering!