When it comes to someone like Kourtney Kardashian, she certainly has plenty of people that she can turn to when the going gets rough. But apparently, there’s only one person she’s willing to listen to when it comes to getting good parenting advice. As a matter of fact, there’s a new report that says the reality television star relies on one controversial evangelical pastor for parenting tips. The celebrity mom shares three children- Mason, nine; Penelope, seven; and four-year-old Reign with her ex-partner, Scott Disick.

According to the Huffington Post, Kardashian leans on Pastors Chad and Julia Veach of the Zoe Church. The two have come under fire in the past as their church has refused to be clear about its stance on LGBTQ+ equality. But for Kardashian, she lists them not only longtime friends, but also as her spiritual mentors. The two have even made a guest appearance on Kourtney’s new lifestyle site, Poosh.

In one video that was published earlier this month, the mother of three asked the evangelical pastors how she can raise her kids as Christians without forcing religious beliefs on them. The question sparked a nearly 10 minute long conversation, where both Chad and Julia gave Kardashian tips on how to insert faith into day-to-day moments with her kids. They also discussed the importance of showing her children unconditional love at all times.

Kardashian said in the clip, “I feel like so many people don’t know unconditional love and so they think they have to lie or they have to pretend they’re someone else, or they have to prove themselves, because they weren’t shown that.”

The reality television star isn’t the only high-profiled celebrity who leans on the Veaches to help her get through some trying times with her kids. As a matter of fact, singer Justin Bieber and actor Chris Pratt are also good friends with the pastors.

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Even though they have quite a celebrity following in Hollywood, the Zoe Church in Los Angeles, California came under fire for its ambiguous stance on LGBTQ+ rights. While there are quite a few churches that hold unaffirming viewers about sexuality and gender, the Zoe Church isn't one of them. Back in 2018, Chad Veach said in an interview that he doesn’t believe in bringing politics into church, and has since refused to make any additional comments about the matter.